TerryF2858 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) good afternoon, i have the following molds: SPJ-3-ATK BSH-3-SA the questions: i poured the jigs with the weed guards in, it went well, only a few bad ones. Now i want to powder coat them, i have Teflon tubes, and painting is going OK, but when i go to bake them for the finish, the tubes slide off or the weed guards sag, or they flare out and sag, any tips or ideas, i tried to use tape to hold them, but it gets to hot and it melts the glue on the tape. i may try foil next time or maybe foil to hold the tubes in place. i use a fluid bed that has the vibrator built in. any tips would be great thank you terry Edited November 8, 2019 by TerryF2858 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO76 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The easiest way to paint is to pour with the provided steel pin, then remove and replace with a teflon pin. Then paint with teflon pin intact and remove the pin after baking and curing paint. Then epoxy your weedguard in after paint is complete. You could also pour with teflon pin instead of steel one. The teflon pins are reusable and readily available. I purchased teflon rods of the proper diameter from amazon and cut them into pins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryF2858 Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 i already have a bunch poured and trimmed, so i painted a few and the problem showed up, so may have to rethink pouring with the weed guards, and try the pins and epoxy, but was thinking the weed guard may not be as strong with just the epoxy, thats why i poured them the way i did. thank you for the suggestions, hope to get a few more ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Terry, Like mentioned above. Glue or epoxy your weedguards in after they are baked. I have been doing this for over 15 years and have no issues of weedguards falling out. There are many guys here that pour without a weedguard and then glue in afterwords. If you need more help you can PM me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I’d use some other kind of paint for the ones on hand, then switch the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 You can prime them with Rustoleum Self Etching primer (thank you Cadman), paint them with Createx, and then top coat them with either epoxy or clear nail polish. Or you can find a nail polish that's the right color, and just use that for your paint. A clear top coat will help the paint last until you lose them, or the hooks get too dull to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryF2858 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 do you use 5 min epoxy or the 30 min one, or gorilla epoxy, i see those teflon pins, they are really nice. probably will need to get a bunch, anyone sell in 100 bags or 50's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I bought 50 from cadman several years ago. I leave mine in the jigs while painting and baking. It is easy to get the paint off them. Edited November 9, 2019 by Jig Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, TerryF2858 said: do you use 5 min epoxy or the 30 min one, or gorilla epoxy, i see those teflon pins, they are really nice. probably will need to get a bunch, anyone sell in 100 bags or 50's Devcon 2-ton epoxy. If it says 2 ton then you have the 30 minute and it is the right stuff. BTW, Devcon 2-ton has an actual working time of 12 minutes, not really a full 30. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkin Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I use Super Glue GEL to glue the weedguards in after painting. The only one that ever came out way on a 40+" Tiger Musky that also dislodged the lead around the hook. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryF2858 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Thank you for all tips, and help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, TerryF2858 said: do you use 5 min epoxy or the 30 min one, or gorilla epoxy, i see those teflon pins, they are really nice. probably will need to get a bunch, anyone sell in 100 bags or 50's You can get the pins from Cadman. Get ahold of him here or on his website. http://cadmansjigs.weebly.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hahn Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Munkin said: I use Super Glue GEL to glue the weedguards in after painting. The only one that ever came out way on a 40+" Tiger Musky that also dislodged the lead around the hook. Allen Exactly what I do and have never had a weedguard pull out. Make sure to use the super glue GEL, as the liquid will wick up the weedguard and cause problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...