deathrider21 Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 First off just want to say I'm new here and new to pouring baits. I have seen valuable info here and just want to say keep up the good work. So my question is I am using bait plastic pour and a silicone mold. I have been following the steps provided and from what I have found online etc. Anyways when I pull the bait out the baits color are not good there cloudy or whitish. The top of the bait exposed to air is perfect, shiny and how I would love for the bait to come out. Also all the extra material in the cup is perfect. Any suggestions? Thank you once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Can you post a pic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Are you coating the mold with a release agent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Are you using a thermometer to bring your plastic to 350ish on the first heat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathrider21 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) No release agent. And I know my bait needs work. These are the first ones. You can see the top is perfectly shiny and smooth. The sides have some small air bubbles. I'm working on it. But I really want to get the color problem down. Also the extra material in the cup comes out perfect top, bottom sides and have zero air bubbles. Edited June 10, 2020 by deathrider21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 what brand of mold ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I spray my silicone molds with PAM cooking spray every couple of pours. The baits come out a little more shiny, but they don't look like baits from an aluminum mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 It looks like you are making your own silicone molds? If that is true, I know what is happening. Any surface imperfection in the original is transferred to the mold, and the mold will then transfer it to the final bait. Even if it was a factory silicone mold, if the original is not perfect, the bait will not be perfect. When I make on original, I "polish" the original before I make the mold. How I "polish" the original depends on what I made it from, but the surface must be slick, clean, "polished". Note, polished does not mean with wax because it can cause some silicone to not properly set cure. The reason the top is slick, shiny, is because air does not have imperfections to transfer. I hope this helps some. Silicone can make slick shiny molds as well as aluminum, but because aluminum is machined it is polished to start with. Silicone requires a perfect original to start with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 yup, looks like a dull master . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 If it were mine I would be finding something to coat the inside of the mold to make it slick. Some type of resin like bondo might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 Could he paint the cavities like on an essential series mold to seal it & smooth out any imperfections thus get shiny baits in the end? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted June 13, 2020 Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 I don't know what you would paint it with that would not transfer to the bait, but, if you could, yes, it would work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Anglinarcher said: I don't know what you would paint it with that would not transfer to the bait, but, if you could, yes, it would work. Yep if i'd interpret what i'd read a little better i'd see that he is using a silicone mold & not made such a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...