ddl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) is that normal to removed 80g of trash from pseudo pure lead ingot ? to give u an idea the lee furnace was just nearly fully loaded ,so imo 80g seems to be a lot no ? and why that golden rainbow film ? the pour was not easy at all Edited June 11, 2020 by ddl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 I’m no metallurgist but there’s a in depth conversation the last couple pages on contamination, color, temperature, fluxing of course, and oxidation up in the best lead flux thread. It might give you some idea about what’s going on. Did you flux that lead well before you put it in your pot? And what are you using for flux? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 hey no flux ,was a brand new lee at 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 The only time I ever ran onto what you describe was I got a mix of lead and Babbitt . But then it would be hard as a rock and to thick to pour from a bottom spout when you heat it . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 babbitt is that the thing they add into the weel lead ? ingot have been sell to me as pure soft lead. it was my first pour ever ,it was not nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, ddl said: hey no flux ,was a brand new lee at 9 I think you should empty your pot and start over. First, never put lead in your pot that hasn’t been fluxed and cleaned unless you trust the source like you trust your best friend. Flux it 2 or 3 times. Scrape off the impurities with a ladle, stainless steel large spoon works well. Pigmetal spoon from Walmart does not. Lots of info on flux in the best lead flux thread. I use gulf wax parrafin from your grocery store. Readily available. Do it outside. Lots of smoke. After you have cleaned your lead only then it goes in your pot. From there, still some learning curve. That’s a start, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, ddl said: babbitt is that the thing they add into the weel lead ? ingot have been sell to me as pure soft lead. it was my first pour ever ,it was not nice One of the things they put in wheel weights . Thing is wheel weights will ruin your pot . Some of it is is corrosive and can eat pits in the crucible . Wheel weights have no. on them . Some of the manufactures have list of the material in a weight . Been a long time since I tried to look up any of that stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 That looks like Zinc contamination to me. If you don't get that out of your pot it will render it unusable as it will cause holes in the liner. I found that out the hard way, you need to be careful when buying lead. I get most of my lead from Rotometals but I bought some very good lead with 3% antimony from Davis bait company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 how it could ruin my pot,mine got no sinkhole . is that normal to already got that brown color that look like rust ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 13, 2020 Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 16 hours ago, ddl said: how it could ruin my pot,mine got no sinkhole . is that normal to already got that brown color that look like rust ? If it is zinc contamination it will ruin your pot even if it isn't a bottom pour. The zinc will corrode the liner and when that happens the pot is no longer usable. I had that happen a long time ago and the lead looked just like that and it seemed to have a heavier viscosity than normal. If you don't believe it will harm your pot then contact LEE and they will tell you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 smalljaw i blieve you.question is did i have to run and removed it right now or i could wait couple of days ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 13, 2020 Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, ddl said: smalljaw i blieve you.question is did i have to run and removed it right now or i could wait couple of days ? If it is zinc you need to get it out ASAP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 done , i hope it is not too late. by chance you are here. ty for all the help. im gonna order battery pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 guys once properly cleaned . how many scrap are you supposed to get per pound once you use a ''pure'' ingot ? don'T need precise number just to get an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 With a pure clean ingot dross should be minimal. If your buying from a reputable refiner such as Rotometals here on the USA it should be really clean. But for scrap lead from a scrap yard or anywhere else it will vary every time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted June 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 mate tks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
