Juice780 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Wonder if anyone has tried this or know anyone that has. I wonder if it would store better than kbs? https://www.topsecretcoatings.com/products/platinum-non-yellowing-urethane-high-gloss-clear-gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 As I said in the past, I stick with ETex Epoxy for my large lures and KBS for my smaller lures I gave up chasing top coats. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 I’m looking to do a lot at a time and kbs is nice but cost too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly voodoo Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 There is a fine line between cost effective, time and quality. In my honest opinion in most cases you are better off to find a good product and shop around to find a good price on quantity Personally I found when making baits to sell time management and figuring out how to produce numbers trumps cheap material Just something to think about I have used both options Wayne mentioned and both are viable. I have personally switched to straight KBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 That’s what I am doing. Shopping around to find something better. I wouldn’t call that product cheap at $80 a gallon. If it stores better than kbs it would be worth a try. I remember when I started out nobody even heard of kbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) I KBS is a MOISTURE CURED urethane, Top Secret is not. There’s a big difference in durability between the two. So you’re not comparing apples to apples. Maybe Top Secret durability is ok on a crankbait. Maybe not. Only one way to know. Of course, you’ll have to pay the piper to find out. Edited July 22, 2020 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I just thought someone may have tried it out before and could offer some feedback before I wasted my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Juice780 said: I just thought someone may have tried it out before and could offer some feedback before I wasted my money. See if you can get a free sample, or can buy a very small amount, so you can do a test, before you sink $80 for a gallon. You might also contact the manuf. and ask their tech people if it would be suitable for fishing lures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I can’t really find the manufacturer anywhere. I think I did email top secrete coatings but never heard a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 The statement at the top of the web page reads - COVID-19 UPDATE: Due to Covid 19, we have closed manufacturing and are selling off our remaining inventory. We will only be able to ship bulk orders of 20+ gallons. If you are interested in placing an order, please send an email to.... To me, this reads like the place is shutting down, and you will only be able to buy minimum 20gal while stocks last. After that, no more! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I tried a concrete sealer and found that it is not good with other plastics baits. Not for me. Wayne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 For Juice 780 KBS is a great product, do not get into trying to get cheaper products, stick with the one that works for you. In the long with no problems it will justify the cost. Cheap is not always better. Make a quality lure an they will purchase. You can always find ways to save money by bulk buying, first you have to sell the bait. Wayne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I finally got a response from the manufacturer and it is a moisture urethane. You can still do quality work in bulk. I know a lot of guys who do. Jawjacker comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 So I just found out this is the same product as garco mcu which I am very familiar with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
