Seele Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Does anyone has some step files of jig hooks, especially VMC? I know they are not that complicated to design, but why not saving time if anyone has already done that. Thanks in advance Edited November 19, 2020 by Seele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Good post. I attempted to collect hook information a few years ago with the intention of generating a CAD hook library for the use of members. Unfortunately only one or two responded and so I abandoned the project. Perhaps now, the CAD community has expanded some more and more information will be forthcoming. I would even extend the project to split-rings and any other hardware items. If anyone is interested in taking part in this exercise then I will open up the project again. You do NOT need CAD for this project, I am only asking for vernier measurements. I can post a data sheet to help with the measurements required. I am prepared to do the work, all I ask is a few measurements. I have: VMC 32786-40. -50, -60, -70, -80 (image below)MUSTAD 91768-30, -40, -50 Eagle Claw 777-4 VMC barbarian-6 (image below) I will share these models on request, simply PM me your email address. If anyone has a vernier and wants to contribute, PM me your email address. Dave Edited November 19, 2020 by Vodkaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Nice work Vodkaman. For designing the moulds or lures it is enough. A little bit of rendering and they look quite nice. Could you please send me the step files? Or better could you upload them on Thingiverse? Here you can find the dimensions of the VMC 5150 - except the wire thickness. For the tip of the hooks you should use the rotate function to have a sharp tip and after that you should design the barb. Looks much nicer. Of course a cutting point tip will be too much work :-) Which program do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Good start information, but not enough for an accurate reproduction. I could import the images, but scaling from images is a long haul. I am not prepared to do that much work. I use Catia V5. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I could trace the images in Lightburn. Maybe I can save them as a .dxf. Should give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I tried one and without the hook the pic is not correct to use to draw the hook. I traced the drawing, guessed the diameter, and as you can see the pic or the dimension in the pic are wrong. A lot of times this works for me but I always have the actual hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I think putting all the hookse on a scanner with a reference scale or graph paper could work pretty fine. Maybe we have a retailer with us who could make a quick scan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Seele said: I think putting all the hookse on a scanner with a reference scale or graph paper could work pretty fine. Maybe we have a retailer with us who could make a quick scan. that is what I normally do and it work good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 I will try a 5150 today and post the result here. I have them in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Looks pretty nice I think. I will print a positive of a mould in the next days, then I will see if the dimensions are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted December 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 The "virtual hook" works on a printed mould. But the printer is not aligned properly. I Have to re-aglin it and print new mould halfs, then I will make silicone mould out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seele Posted February 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Unfortunately the topic is rather dead. But I want to give my comments on my last mould. It came out perfect and works great. The 3D designed hook had exact the dimensions he should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Seele - yes, too bad. When CAD design becomes more prominent along with 3D printing then people will be crying out for this information. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Vodkaman said: Seele - yes, too bad. When CAD design becomes more prominent along with 3D printing then people will be crying out for this information. Dave Perhaps... I tend to think it isn't very important to the average Joe that makes lures and not for sure that will really change too much. As younger people get into it will change but they don't use sites like TU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 I only have a couple of hooks in 3d model. I use Solidworks and I also have a 3d printer. I do have a copy of a blank Do-It mold in 3d, that I use to carve out mold designs. It is my master. I have also made some jigs out of PLA plastic 3d printed with a steel hook. I'll see how well it catches fish. Then I'll post some pics. I just love designing parts and then 3d printing them. It is so cool to have a finished part in your hands an hour after you design it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 I am surprised that someone on GrabCad or similar hasn't already put in hooks. Heck would think that some of the manufactures would have the files available. It is nice beign able to just go to McMaster Carr or similar to download files for projects. Recently using Loc Line for an application and that company has all their parts downloadable. 29 minutes ago, cadman said: I I just love designing parts and then 3d printing them. It is so cool to have a finished part in your hands an hour after you design it. Hmmm... last print I did was 6 hrs in when it dislodged from the base. So had a very clean object about about 4 inches high with a mound of spaghetti on top of it. Love 3D printing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Yes McMaster Carr is in my backyard, and yes it is nice to download (in my case Solidworks) files for almost everything they sell. I 3d print a lot and I am very happy with all of my finished parts. My printer is an Ender 3 Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) It is definitely very satisfying to see something you designed and printed. I am still amazed for how cheap one can do it and how accurate and nice even the cheap units are capable of. I am using a AnetA8 I picked up for the kids but video games just too much fun. I had bought it new from a coworker (he ended up giving me a second later when he upgraded) and it has performed very well after all the initial fuss getting it dialed in. Was running the bed temp a little cooler before the last upgrade and figured that was the reason it dislodged. The Ender really took off not too long after I picked up mine and very popular unit in that price range currently. I really have no need for a 3D printer but I have no doubt I will upgrade at some point as not that expensive of a hobby with the huge added bonus the software and thinking/designing things keeps the brain working. Better than watching TV for sure. Edited February 13, 2021 by Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Travis, I am looking for a second 3d printer. The only downfall of these is that they are very slow. But you can't beat the cost per part (minus engineering time and run time) when you can get a part sometimes made in 15 minutes to maybe a couple of hours. If I had to send this to a machinist or a fab shop for a prototype, there would definitely be a surcharge for a one of part plus mat'l cost and hourly rate. My Ender a couple of years ago was $180.00. I personally didn't think it was that expensive considering the things I could do with it. They have a new Ender that has a glass bed and self leveling system. That would be a definite plus for me. However I would like to pick up a bigger one, because the bed would have a bigger footprint. I enjoy using my 3d printer because like you said it keeps the mind going. I clean and repair reels and I have made a couple of custom tools for myself in plastic. The reason for plastic is because plastic doesn't scratch parts. Many guys who have expensive reels are very OCD. So I can't afford to scratch any of the reels finishes. I have attached some pics of some of the tools I made and use for reel repair. First pic is a double sided hex nut remover (10 and 11 mm). 2nd pic is a hex nut remover that fits down a spinning reel shaft and in between two bosses sticking up on top of the rotor. Edited February 13, 2021 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
