Jerry Jrz Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 I have tried many ideas, many plastisols, shooting at higher temps but im still not 100% satisfied with the strength of my tails. I've cut in diagonal as opposed to straight and it has helped. What are some of the things you guys are doing to strengthen the bond? Also, which plastic is more effective with this? I need something on the firmer side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 The bond should be a temp thing . What plastic , can not answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgie Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 In the past I had purchased some finesse minnows from Bass Pro they had a glow tail . Anyway half of them fell off before I got to use them. They must need a much higher temp to fuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 For me, I like to get the 2nd color to 350 degrees or a little higher . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Lureworks makes a product called Bondcoat that may work for making a stronger bond on your tails. https://www.ispikeit.com/product/691/bondcoat-4849 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jrz Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Thanks fellas for the suggestions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiderunner Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Interesting. I've been pouring tails for years, and never had one separate. I don't use a tail mold though. I just pour the whole bait in the tail color I want. Cut to size I want, then put cut off tail piece back in the mold, and pour the main color. I may cut tails for about 10-20 baits, the pour the main color. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 I don't use a lot of different colored tails for bass but pour hundreds of crappie baits with them. I'll pour a zip lock bag of just tails beforehand. Never any issues with them separating from the body. I'd definitely look in the direction of heat to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2marshall8 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 could this have to due with the type of plastisol being used? I was shooting chartreuse tails for some drop shot baits on some super high floating (low resin) plastisol and have seen all the tails fall off just sitting in the bag. just another thought to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiderunner Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 I make tones of baits with different color tails. and tons of laminates, and never had them separate. Is it possible there's something oily on the mold that's preventing a solid bond? On your hands? Or maybe plastisol needs to be mixed more? I know there are times when I don't mix well enough my finished baits have an oily feel to them. Are you using a thermometer to check your plastic temps? I've had some baits now that are three years old with no issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2marshall8 Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 I'm curious with all of these answers were the baits stored in plastic bags putting pressure on the tail rudder in an awkward way and still didn't separate? I have to use oil in many of my molds to keep the baits shiny, when I remove them I cure em for a day and put them in plastics bags and have had custom complaints of tails separating. I'm wondering if perhaps the oil and the cure time being only 1 day may be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 If you tug on the tails just shortly after unmolding you should know rite away if you have a good bond. That has worked for me anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 For a good bond, you need to have the ends of your first bait clean. No oil. This will prevent a good bond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
