Lochie Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Recently I have made two lures and tested them today. Weirdly they just glided through the water with absolutely no action, not even a slight wobble. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochie Posted March 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Also just looking at the lures after using them, I’ve noticed that one of them the clear coat epoxy resin has gone all cloudy. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly voodoo Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 There is multiple reasons the action could be dead but it comes down to 4 thing’s most of the time tow point, lip shape, lip angle, and weight. If the lure rides slightly nose down with minimal weight you can’t change much here. But if the weighting is heavy the lip needs to be able to apply more force to move the body your lip angle looks good but in principle the more or longer the lip catches water pressure the more power it has. But the angle also effects depth lip shape wider equals more wiggle thinner less. Length effects depth and wiggle to a lesser degree tow point the closer to the lip the more power the lip has farther away decreases I hope this helps. I am off to work so hopefully someone here will chime in and help you more good luck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly voodoo Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Wow my rushed typing on my phone is always horrible In person my speech is a lot smoother at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochie Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Hillbilly voodoo said: There is multiple reasons the action could be dead but it comes down to 4 thing’s most of the time tow point, lip shape, lip angle, and weight. If the lure rides slightly nose down with minimal weight you can’t change much here. But if the weighting is heavy the lip needs to be able to apply more force to move the body your lip angle looks good but in principle the more or longer the lip catches water pressure the more power it has. But the angle also effects depth lip shape wider equals more wiggle thinner less. Length effects depth and wiggle to a lesser degree tow point the closer to the lip the more power the lip has farther away decreases I hope this helps. I am off to work so hopefully someone here will chime in and help you more good luck Thanks heaps for your reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly voodoo Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Lochie said: Thanks heaps for your reply No problem A good way to learn is carve a body and seal it. Use tape/elastic bands to hold weight in temporary locations. Elastic bands to hold hooks. Have multiple different lips and pressure fit them so you can swap them out. A small eye screw that can be used to test different tow points Just go out and test different combos. When you have what you want carve a good body and finish it knowing the action will be good. Keep notes and you can repeat it over and over I can just build a lure with good action but my best lures are often from testing multiple options with the method above 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 It would help if you gave exacts, material used, size, weight placement, and overall weight with all hardware. Plowing generally indicates too much weight/size to bill size/angle of bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 7:29 PM, azsouth said: It would help if you gave exacts, material used, size, weight placement, and overall weight with all hardware. Plowing generally indicates too much weight/size to bill size/angle of bill. Agreed with this. It'd try concentrating most of your ballast between the lip and front hook hanger. You could also try placing the lip more perpendicular to the body or the line tie under the snout. Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterPalssz Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Epoxy resin clouded Turbidity occurs when water enters the mixture, or there is moisture on the treated surface. Therefore, before pouring the epoxy, make sure that the surface is completely clean and dry. Another reason for turbidity is the acceleration of the drying process using a hair dryer. Edited March 18, 2021 by InterPalssz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exx1976 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) On 3/18/2021 at 12:07 PM, InterPalssz said: Epoxy resin clouded Turbidity occurs when water enters the mixture, or there is moisture on the treated surface. Therefore, before pouring the epoxy, make sure that the surface is completely clean and dry. Another reason for turbidity is the acceleration of the drying process using a hair dryer. Depending on the type of resin used, he could also be looking at amine blush. This is common with many types of marine-grade resins used in ship building/repair. Since I don't recall that he specified what resin he was using, I wouldn't rule this out. Some of the West Systems stuff will do this - however, it's not a big deal. It comes off with soap and water. Google "amine blush" for more info. Edited April 9, 2021 by exx1976 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
