finlander Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 When I want to pour a large plastic that may need more than one Pyrex of plastic, how will the next batch of plastic react with the plastic in the mold? I realize time is critical. If the plastic in the mold has started to set, will the new plastic bond to old well enough to use it confindently?? I don't know the amount of plastic needed yet. I have 1/2 gallon of Del's left. I'll probably have to order more. Thanks for yourhelp. the Rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsac Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Are you talking about pouring more then 1 cup into one cavity You can always heat 2 cups at the same time. Regardless, if you have a single cavity big enough to hold 1 cup of plastic, it's going to stay hot for 8 minutes or so. I still recommend pouring your second layer within 30 seconds of the first for a secure, trustworthy bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 That must be ONE granddaddy of a bait! You better get on the phone with Del pretty quick 'cuz that plastic will go fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 ON large swimbaits like i am starting to pour again you often must wait a few minutes between pours to keep plastic from simply mixing together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted December 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Yes, I need to get right on it. I didn't go to Canada this past year but will return in '05, and time iz a-wastin'. I want ti pour a LARGE swimbait in the shape of a northern pike. Looking at 20" or so. Seems the monsters up there won't look at small (8") baits. I want to put a lip in the plastic too. Maybe at a slight angle, so that it will swim 'wounded'. Or, put the lip in square to the body, and weight it to one side. This hard water season in Michigan gets my mind wandering............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 yea you gotta wait for plastic to set quite a bit with big swimbaits. 20" is HUGE! i dont even throw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted December 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm still in the planning stages. Not sure what to make the mold out of. Probably will run a wire thru after the pour, and add weights as well. Will troll with it. Lodge owner lost a 4 lb bass to a big shadow right it front of the lodge this summer. If I could put an action on this thing like it's struggling, maybe I'll get that muskie that lifted our boat two years ago. I have the means to paint the plastic so I don't have to dye it. If I did though, and poured a white plastic in first, for the belly color, would I want to wait til it hardened before adding a green plastic?? I think I would want a gradual change from the white to the green. How would I accomplish this? :oops: Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Not totally harden becasue plastic wont bond together. Painting plastic is a pain unless you know where to get the special paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 you could do something a little bit mad and make it in sections so that it has a jointed apperance, use some sort of weaved fabric and titanium or flexable wire to thru wire it, you could even do a hard head and lip like the deep and shallow invaders sounds like a great project, post a pic of your progress i'm interested in how this will go, one of our pike waters has big pike nabbing jacks when your landing them tightlines john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlander Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 I'm about to make the plaster mold. The rough out of the master is done. I'm not sure just how detailed I need to make it. I have plastic paint that I will put spots on it to look like the pike. I have two ideas running thru my head. One is to make it on its' side, with a small diving lip and a swim-type tail. Looks like it is on its' last leg, swimming just under the surface. Make it an easy meal for a muskie. The other is to mount a dive lip the normal way, but weight it so it runs alittle on its' side, erractically. I don't know if just hanging a sinker on one of the trebles below it will accomplish this, or if I need to add weight higher in the back of the lure so it wobbles. I have read that some are adding this weight to cranks, bb's thru a drilled hole high on the body. I really would like to pour a life-like tail. Maybe a thinner area back towards the tail, like a hinged area would work with a lip up front. But the action of an injured fish is what I want the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
