Fern Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 So I finally decided to give airbrushing my soft plastic baits a try. I just kinda jumped into it not really knowing much about air brushing. Let me be clear that I know nothing about air brush paint, solvent, and retarders, I only know these are words that often come up when reading about air brushing. I do understand that a retarder is some sort of thinner and slows down the drying time of the solvent (in this case (clear 3000). For safety, I wore the exact M3 mask with the organic vapor filter while spraying and had an exhaust fan next to the baits as I painted, do I need glasses when spraying? A few things that I am looking for assistance with, the first being the spider web like strands that are produced while air brushing. I am currently using Lureworks Clear 3000 and mixing some mica powder in it. I didn't use any type of ratio, I just filled a tiny 1 ounce glass jar half way with clear 3000 and then scooped about 1 tsp of mica powder in, shook it and poured it into the airbrush's color cup and sprayed it on my baits. The color came out great but I noticed that a web like material started to form as i sprayed and it would get sucked into the exhaust fan and eventually the exhaust fan's protective cage would get completely covered in it like a spider web. I read somewhere that this might be caused by the solvent used and that I might need some thinner (retarder)? does this sound correct? If using sb 3000, what is the recommended thinner? Lastly, any tips on air brushing would be greatly welcomed and appreciated. Is there a cheaper alternative solvent to mix mica powder with for air brushing? Should I be using some sort of ratio of solvent to Mica powder? for cleaning the color cup and the air brush parts,I used 100% acetone nail polish remover, is there any warning against this practice? is there a cheaper alternative solution for cleaning? These are some of the baits I made yesterday, I think they came out ok for it being the first time air brushing, what do you guys think? Blue Mackerel and Green Mackerel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmeister Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 If those are dipped baits you can air brush mica powder mixed with acetone on a finished bait then do a final dip with clear plastic to seal the mica to the bait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fern Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, jigmeister said: If those are dipped baits you can air brush mica powder mixed with acetone on a finished bait then do a final dip with clear plastic to seal the mica to the bait They are hand dipped. When using clear 3000, the paint dries quickly and I am happy with drying time (just a few seconds). If I use acetone will it dry just as quickly? Is there something I can add to the acetone to make it dry quicker, like the opposite of a retarder? Thanks for your input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmeister Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 I tried this with the air brush spray set pretty light and sprayed multiple coats until I was happy with the coverage .The acetone will dry in seconds after being sprayed on but the mica will stay in place . It looks like this is how Basstrix painted their swimbaits using this method then final dipping in clear coat which both seals the mica powder and brings out the color(s) . Give it a try and see what you think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fern Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 3:12 PM, jigmeister said: On 5/31/2022 at 3:12 PM, jigmeister said: I tried this with the air brush spray set pretty light and sprayed multiple coats until I was happy with the coverage .The acetone will dry in seconds after being sprayed on but the mica will stay in place . It looks like this is how Basstrix painted their swimbaits using this method then final dipping in clear coat which both seals the mica powder and brings out the color(s) . Give it a try and see what you think Thanks! This is exactly what I have been doing. up until now I have been brushing the mica on in both wet and dry form using a traditional brush and then sealing them in with a final dip (as seen in the pic above). I got my airbrush a while back ago but just started using it recently but have been using clear 3000 which is just way too expensive so looking for an alternative cheaper solvent to use. I did try the acetone and mica mix and while it worked, I found that it was clogging my air brush way more than using the clear 3000, not exactly sure why yet but i think maybe it is drying up too fast so maybe a retarder should work to sort this issue out, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmeister Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 From what I have read People who paint plastic baits with airbrushes have to use retarder to eliminate the spider webs that form due to the paint drying too fast . A little but of mica goes a long way I am wondering if you are putting too much mica in the paint cup causing clumping in the tip ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIR Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) most retarder are just gel+water+glycerin aka thick water https://youtu.be/cZR1Q-Acd3c?t=562 so you mix do not make sediment (clumps) this is good stuf as a "all in one" too water paint (shop price) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGMRqNue04c -------------------------------------------------------- my homemade mix is SILICA (20g to 1 liter) + right side jpg (mix Silica and water first) it can keep the color 3-5g/100g mix for 24 hours without falling to the bottom if you warm up your bait a little, the color will set quickly and without drops Edited June 5, 2022 by OIR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIR Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 hand sanitizer 60-80% + distilled water hand sanitizer got gel+alcohol +glycerin so you just need to add distilled water the mix is 1/3 hand sanitizer + 2/3 water 60% hand sanitizer make a thick mix 80% hand sanitizer is close to being right (dilute or add alcohol) works well in paint : Golden High Flow Acrylics createx wicked colors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLuvin175 Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 5/30/2022 at 12:46 PM, Fern said: They are hand dipped. When using clear 3000, the paint dries quickly and I am happy with drying time (just a few seconds). If I use acetone will it dry just as quickly? Is there something I can add to the acetone to make it dry quicker, like the opposite of a retarder? Thanks for your input Acetone will flash off too quick, especially when atomized and blown through an airbrush, so it is not a good thinner for SB Coat paint. It can also promote blushing which is moisture condensation on the paint which can lead to a matte finish look. It is fine to use for clean up as long as the paint isnt dry. Acetone is cheap and more readily available than most other solvents. Adding the pearl/mica powder to the Clear 3000 is fine. Looking at your mix ratio you have about 25% mica in the paint, which is a lot of solids. This may be contributing to webbing. Try cutting it in half to around 10-15%, it should still be effective and probably spray better, even if you have to do two coats. An addition of a little Retarder 3002 wont hurt either, maybe 10-20% of the total paint mix. I would use SB Coat Retarder 3002 or SB Coat Thinner 3001 for thinning or correcting excessive cob-webbing. Webs in your exhaust filter and around your work area are normal. Filters are consumable and do need to be replaced over time. Webbing as a concern is when it happens straight out of the airbrush. This means the paint is literally drying instantly as it leaves the airbrush and therefore you not likely to get a good bond to the bait. Im not sure how the above recommended homemade cleaner will work for SB Coat when its already dried. SB Coat is a vinyl and not an acrylic. For dried SB Coat in your airbrush SB Coat Thinner 3001 will do the trick, it is more aggressive than the Retarder 3002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...