clemmy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Does anyone know what worm oil actually is? I mean I see "worm oil"(MF), "worm oil" that has garlic (LC), "plastic Lubricant" (MF), "worm oil" (Calhoun's), "worm oil" (Janns)... What is this stuff? minearal oil? (shouldn't be) Menhadden oil? And what then is plastic lubricant? Next obvious question is if they differ, what's best? I've been using it in my bags and I have no idea what it is! Any help a poor confused soul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted December 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 And I forgot to mention i remember on one of the OLD threads about alternative color supplies that it was postulated that liquid coloring was pigment or dye dispersed in worm oil, or that it would work (Del i think you were involved in that conversation, is that how you're doin your new colors?) Another thread mentioned worm oil could be added to clumped up colors... But again, what is this stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Does anyone know what is in worm oil? Or is it a deep dark secret that only the shadow knows? Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 I dont know whats in worm oil but next time I talk to a chemist I will ask, Calhouns chemist will let me know if I ask, its really no secret. The worm oil and color might have been a typo on my part, it should be softener not worm oil Sorry about that. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted December 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks Del that would be great! It could easily be that I was mistaken also about the color/pigment, it's been a while. If you get the chance to ask your Calhoun contact, could you also ask him what the "plastic lubricant" might be? I think that's in the MF catalog in addition to the worm oil?? Thanks again! Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Original Fish Formula gamefish or craw scent is the cheapest per oz. and works fine, either in the hot plastic, in the mold for a super glassy surface or in the bag as a lubricant. Walmart's Baitmate works as an alternate (but the craw doesn't exactly smell like craw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northbassman Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Do you use worm oil for salted plastics. Well I guess a better way to clarify that is should you use worm oil for plastics that have salt sprinkled on them??? I hope that makes sense. Thanks Guys, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Northbassman, I use worm oil, because it gives the bait a shiny appearance and keeps the baits from sticking together. I also use some scent on the baits. The oil and scent do wash off, but I believe this is more natural than salt. I have never seen oil and salt mixed together, but there are probably as many ideas on this subject as there are bait makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 As long as the plastics aren't swimming in oil, there's no problem surface salting. The best way to keep the salt from washing off on the first cast is to heat the worm over a flame and roll the lure in a little bit of spread-out salt. I do it for black worms that I want to apply glitter to the outside and make it stick permenantly or curly tails that I want to have extra flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbass Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I just spray my molds with garlic Bang! and that lasts for 2-3 pours. Plus the plastic takes on the garlic scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackllbass Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Hey, I have been using Johnsons' Baby oil for thirty years and have had no problems with it. Don't substitute an off brand, use Johnsons. Later<>< <>< <>< <>< Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I use Johnson's baby oil also. It doesm't make the plastic hard and the fish love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassnG3 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I used to use Johnsons Baby oil but couldn't stand the smell :!: Now just some Kickin Bass. Scott 'Tis the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 So has anyone been able to find out what "worm oil" and "plastic lubrricant" is made of?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 I am wondering the same thing. Not that it's gonna save anybody's life or anything, just curious. Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Good luck ...I have tried to find out for the last 7 years ...nobody will say ....I'm not sure why??? I do know that it is not mineral oil. Yamamoto industries does not recommend mineral oil to be added to their soft plastics...they say it will harden them. I don't know why its such a big secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 I think it must be some kind of highly-refined paraffinic petroleum distillate that has had all the aromatics and napthenic molecules removed. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it seems to be a guarded secret. Think of the money we could save buying it direct. I hope someone finds the answer; it's not like it's patented or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 From what I’ve been learning and researching and asking people that sale Worm Oil they say worm oil is nothing but mineral oil with other ingredients add to make it Worm Oil the other ingredients I guess we will never know but this is what I have found out I took worm oil and mineral oil the 30 day test and basically saw no difference let them sit in the mineral oil for a month and no difference only difference one had a light like industrial oil smell when the other had no smell meaning that was the mineral oil.. and mineral oil is nothing but petroleum based.. mineral oil you’re buying in the store is considered food grade Hope this makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchilton Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Same oil as the plasticizer in your soft plastic...Diisononyl Phthalate (DINP). Here's a link https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/diisononyl-phthalate-dinp It is not mineral oil. Mineral oil will ruin plastic worms and I wouldn't recommend vegetable oil of any kind either. There are some plasticizers now that a phthalate-free, don't know what those are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgie Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 hours ago, wchilton said: Same oil as the plasticizer in your soft plastic...Diisononyl Phthalate (DINP). Here's a link https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/diisononyl-phthalate-dinp It is not mineral oil. Mineral oil will ruin plastic worms and I wouldn't recommend vegetable oil of any kind either. There are some plasticizers now that a phthalate-free, don't know what those are. Mineral oil has no effect on my baits, I have been using it for 5 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...