GruntHead Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I've been using the Harbor freight special 19.99(Badger?) ones for awhile now and wanting to invest in something a little nicer.I cannot get the fine detail that I want with these brushes.I would like it to be a double action side feed.Any suggestions,money not really an object,I want to get something nice.Any suggestions on brushes that have sealed washers,pro's or con's?Thank you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funny farm Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I have and have always liked best my badger 155 anthem . I have had 3 pashcee vl thingys and didnt like them . everyone else loves the pashcee vls .the anthem goes real fine and real wide , one size needle , one size tip . I am sure a pashee vl lover will chime in soon It is basicly what you get used to i think , I spray every thing from epoxy , primers , water based paints and automotive clear coats with the same airbrush . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Im with Funny Farm. But I have Badger 150's Dual action..... the only issue I really have is that the 150 is a bottom feed. You have to be careful cause if not... the cup can come off and spill all over the place. But aside that, I wouldnt trade mine in for the worls. Its all I've ever used, and no need to try or swith to something that works great for me. Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Ball Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I use an Iwata eclipse CS and it is awesome !! It will do from a hairline to 2" spray. It is a gravity feed, and i think that is the way to go. Some Iwata'a are pretty expensive, but this gun runs around 105.00 at airbrush depot. I think Iwata's are the best out there. All my buddies that have body shops got me on these, and I have no reason to switch. My 2 cents, T-Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntHead Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Funny Farm,I'm looking online at the 155 anthem and it says it has 3 tip sizes(s,m,l,)Which size do you use for everything.What replacement parts do I need to order right away?(tips,needlesect.)I'll look at the Iwatas next.Funny Farm,what do you use to clean out your airbrush besides water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacfan Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 You must be lookin at something else. I also have an anthem and I think it only has 1 size needle and tip. Check out dixieart.com, they are about the cheapest around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Grunthead, I use the Badger 150 and the tip and needle I use ONLY is a Fine Tip! Im not sure on the Anthem, but the 150 uses a Fine Medium and Large Tip and Needle. But the Fine tip and needle covers all I need it to in painting lures! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddoxBay Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I have a Badger 100, 150, and 175. The 100 gravity feed does most of the work for me. If I was to choose a different brush it would be a Iwata gravity feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I have only owned one airbrush so it's difficult for me to provide any comparitive info. However, I have a Paasche single action and one thing I don't like is that the smallest tip still doesn't go fine enough. The thinnest line I can paint with the small needle is probably 1/2 inch. It seems to clog a great deal too but then again I am spraying the cheapest of paints from WalMart. Gravity feed sounds like it would be a mess tho...is the gravity feed chamber sealed or do you have to worry about it spilling out? Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddoxBay Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 The ones I have are open and you could spill it. I think there is some that have some sort of a lid on them but they would still probably spill. I am usually painting one bait at a time so the small cup works great. The brush will even spray just one drop of paint with very little waste. I like it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I use a badger 150 Pro. I have no complaints or qualms with it, works well. Would buy another if I needed to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 paashe h pattern for us. cheap, parts are available. we run up to 5 at a time. also try using baby food jars for painting. they work well and you just need the nipples from your smaller bottles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Hmmmm, my post in this thread seems to have vanished, guess it those "x-rated" Paasche VL pics I posted, lol. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I use a Paasche VL and a Badger Crescendo, both bottom siphon internal mix brushes. On balance, the Paasche may have slightly finer control but the Badger has user friendly features that I like (snap off rear cap, large easy to remove finger nuts, and a mix chamber that's fast to clean). You're going to be cleaning it ALOT and ergonomics in that area are important. I got the VL new off Ebay with a Central Pneumatic compressor. Great price but the chinese compressor is just "adequate" with a constant working pressure of around 15psi. Get the best compressor you can afford. I "inherited" a better Badger compressor from my son (see, kids ARE good for something!). Both the Badger and the Paasche came with 3 tips. If I were into fine detail and used auto air colors, a brush with a top gravity feed cup would be useful, but the siphon feed brushes are fine for moderate detail and shading with acrylic paints, IMO. I started with a $20 Badger #150 aerosol kit and it's not a bad way to get into airbrushing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesandbaits Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Grunthead,for what it's worth I use both the Badger 150 and Iwata Eclipse. Although the Badger will accept 3 heads I keep mine loaded w/ a medium head. The Eclipse stays loaded w/ a fine head. The fine head (Eclipse) gets the call most of the time except when shooting clear and chartruese The medium head gets the call when I want to cover alot of surface and am not concerned w/ overspray,ie Prime coat/white basecoat/pearl base coat/topcoat. The cool thing is that the Badger siphon lids/jars/and here's the nice one.........Airbrush Tips are all interchangable with Iwata and vice verse.I would reccomend either brand and enjoy having both.Iwata is probably the better of the two but not by much. Bottom line,if you stay w/either Badger or Iwata your components are for the most part compatable Blades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I have and have always liked best my badger 155 anthem . I have had 3 pashcee vl thingys and didnt like them . everyone else loves the pashcee vls .the anthem goes real fine and real wide ' date=' one size needle , one size tip . I am sure a pashee vl lover will chime in soon It is basicly what you get used to i think , I spray every thing from epoxy , primers , water based paints and automotive clear coats with the same airbrush .[/quote'] Funny Farm - Can you ellaborate on spraying epoxy? Specifically what product and how do you thin it for spraying? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntHead Posted December 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Looking around and will probably go with the Badger 155 for now until I see if I like it or not.Thanks for all of your help guys.By the way what do use use for the clear?Are you thinning dev. or etex and shooting it?If so can you explain the process,I've heard several different versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 I have three paasche brushes: the "H" I started with and a VJR and a Millineum. I have no complaints with them, but haven't used them once since I went Iwata. I keep meaning to put the Millineum up on eBay...JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Grunthead, go with the Badger 150 if you choose the Badgers and you wont be sorry! If you dont like it... then sell it to me. I love all 5 of mine. The best feature I like about the 150 is having the interchangeable heads. I really dont use anything other than the Fine, but Im telling you it works just fine. lol Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassNator 1 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 P.S. Dont run a clear through your gun. Paint it on with disposable brushes! Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finneous Fogg Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 OK I'm waay late posting on this thread but as it's my first day here, I'm a bit post happy. I've got 4 Paasche air brushes. The H, VLJ, VL & AB. The VLJ doesn't get used. Not that it's a bad brush, it isn't. It's just the other three cover all I need. The H sprays my primer and I also put thinned color preserver through it. The VL I use to paint large areas where detail isn't involved. The AB is the baddest motor scooter of airbrushes I've ever used. The detail it's capable of is second to none. A big plus for a newb such as myself. The draw back of the AB is it's often over $200 bucks brand new. (pssst...shop on E-bay) I bought a Craftsman compressor. It's 2 1/2 HP with a 3 gallon airtank and two inline water catches. I can spray at any pressure up to 100 PSI. But I spray usually at 30 PSI except when heavy pigments are used in which case I'll go to 50. And I'm a big fan of Golden paints. Later, FF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtrs5kprs Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 One VL, two Milenniums, one V (super fine detail). Any additional will probably be mileniums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBait Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Here is a forum...that will give you straight up answers regarding airbrushing. These guys know airbrushing. http://www.airbrush.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=2 Its not the airbrush, it is the media....what kind of paint. Thinning correctly with reducers...not water. And air pressure... dont expect to pick up an airbrush once every 2 weeks and know how to use it... lots of answers when you do searches on their forum...some of the work that is on there is awesome. Free answers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBait Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I didnt mean to offend anyone on this forum.. not implying you couldnt get good answers on this forum. Just wanted to let other on this board know where they could get more answers.... wanted to make that clear....not looking to pick a fight... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoRoller Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thanks for that link Tbait! Did you see that mailbox?? Awesome is an understatement. I will have to do some more reading on that site, the conversation on color theory is enlightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
