madbass Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I'm trying to make the Yamamoto color #326. All it is, is .035 gold,silver and smaller amount of black, NO colorant. My problem is that the plastic turns slightly gold.On the Yam., the plastic took on no coloring. Is the gold flake bleeding? I tried adding all the flake only after heating, right before I pour, but no help. The salt is somehow causing this because without salt there is almost no bleeding. I have a guy that wants alot of these, but will not be happy with the gold plastic color. Any thoughts or ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish_N_Fool Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 What brand of gold flake are you using? Some bleed alot more then others. I would try a differant brand of glitter and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbass Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I'm using calhoun plastic and softener, Dels salt-floured, and Senko sams glitter-gold light,silver and black.Heating in micro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Any chance that could be coming from overheating your plastic?? Might try adding some stabilizer, heating in only 30 second intervals (after plastic is almost completely clear) or it could be the glitter. I guess if its happenning prior to adding the glitter, its overheating. If after adding the glitter, its the glitter. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass4cache Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 My first guess would be the Glitter is bleeding. Might try another brand. They all seem kinda different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james bradshaw Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I had trouble with the yellow gold, from senko sam. It didn't bleed at first but with a little time in the pot it started to make the plastic light yellow. I tried it three times and it did the same thing every time. I don't have any trouble with lure craft, or M-F glitter so far, and haven't had trouble with senko sams other glitters. Good luck! james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 The three at the top are yellow gold in clear (.015, .040) - no bleed The bottom two are .015 lt gold in clear - no bleed. Small glitter acts like worm dye, the same as pearl powder. The flakes reflect color off the plastic and make it seem likes it's tinted. If you make a film around the inside of a pyrex glass and it's tinted, than it's tinted. The plastic film must be held up to a white florescent light or the background will tint the clear plastic. Heating plastic over 325 or reheating after the 2nd time, will degrade glitter, cause it to shrink and maybe melt into the plastic. Adding glitter and salt after the peak pouring temperature of 275 (max) has been reached, stirring and then zapping for 5-10 seconds, allows for clear plastic to stay clear. Seering clear plastic will yellow it, as will reheating it at a high temperature. (Reheated plastic only takes less than 1/2 the time to melt than new plastisol.) Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 After I remelted the clear plastic with gold glitter, there was a slight yellow tint. After I remelted clear plastic with no glitter, there also developed a tint of yellow. I was using the last of LC plastic and used no heat stabilizer. So the caveat to using the glitter I sell, is that there may be a bleed problem for clear plastic on the remelt, but not on the first melt. There is no problem in colored plastic. Thanks to Dan for pointing this out. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...