Jig Man Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Other than filing down each head how would you put a flat place on them? I’m not looking to do a mold mod if I can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) If you are doing a flat face on both sides, you can put the jig in a vice and slowly close the vice. It is crude but it does work. Hopefully, you don't have a lot of them to do as this is time consuming. Edited November 20, 2023 by cadman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Actually I am trying to turn a 1/2 oz jig into a 7/16. I may be making several dozen. I have looked and not found a 7/16 football mold. I really don’t want to go the red silicone route because I find it nearly impossible to remove. I may have to use it and buy another mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Oh I see, I thought you wanted to flatten the sides. What I have done in the past to lessen the weight, is put in hollow metal beads, or small, pieces on aluminum rod in the mold cavity. This will take up space in your cavity and will not melt when you pour your lead. The bigger the piece you put in the more space you will take up. It might be worth a try I have not seen a 7/16 oz football mold either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Ted that’s a great idea. I don’t think I have any aluminum rods but I do have beads. What do you think would happen if I were to use glass beads. Edited November 20, 2023 by Jig Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Use tin/bismuth etc... Lighter than lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Ted I tried 3 different beads. I found a size that is perfect with 2 beads. I cast 8 with the 2 beads. 6 of them were perfect. 2 of them had beads showing on the surface. Is there a trick to keeping the beads imbedded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, 21xdc said: Use tin/bismuth etc... Lighter than lead. Probably not. I have 200+ pounds of free lead that I am trying to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jig Man said: Ted I tried 3 different beads. I found a size that is perfect with 2 beads. I cast 8 with the 2 beads. 6 of them were perfect. 2 of them had beads showing on the surface. Is there a trick to keeping the beads imbedded? If the beads have holes, put some thread through the holes and tie it suspended on the hook shank if you can. This is not the most effective way to do this, but for a couple of dozen jigs it shouldn't be too bad. You can also use very thin wire like from a small transformer. If the beads do not have holes, you can suspend them with a little clay wrapped around the hook shank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) They have holes. I’ll try the thread. Thanks again. I gave them a try. It worked well. The tying is a bit cumbersome but doable. Edited November 21, 2023 by Jig Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Jig Man said: They have holes. I’ll try the thread. Thanks again.I gave them a try. It worked well. The tying is a bit cumbersome but doable. That looks good. Yes it is tedious and cumbersome, however it does work. Luckily you don't have to make 500 of them. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Correct. I am just doing it for my personal use. A couple of dozen will last a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 If I were only doing a couple of dozen for myself, I'd take a 1/2oz jig and, using a vise to hold it, file the bottom flat until it weighed 7/16. Then I'd just do all the rest the same. If I got them close, I'd be happy. A sharp file and a file card or brass wire brush, to keep the file teeth clear, and I'd be set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mark poulson said: If I were only doing a couple of dozen for myself, I'd take a 1/2oz jig and, using a vise to hold it, file the bottom flat until it weighed 7/16. Then I'd just do all the rest the same. If I got them close, I'd be happy. A sharp file and a file card or brass wire brush, to keep the file teeth clear, and I'd be set. Mark that is where I started. I’m sure you are better at this than I. I did a few with a mill bastard file. It was a pain and inconsistent. I want them to weigh 7/16 so I had to keep checking. Ted’s idea is a lot easier and actually faster for me. Edited November 21, 2023 by Jig Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) I take it you're using a 1\2 oz mold, does a 1\16 of an ounce really make that much difference in a football head? Edited November 23, 2023 by basskat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, basskat said: I take it you're using a 1\2 oz mold, does a 1\16 of an ounce really make that much difference in a football head? Physically maybe not, psychologically yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 1:47 PM, Jig Man said: Mark that is where I started. I’m sure you are better at this than I. I did a few with a mill bastard file. It was a pain and inconsistent. I want them to weigh 7/16 so I had to keep checking. Ted’s idea is a lot easier and actually faster for me. When I do that, I start with clean file, count the strokes until I get the weight I want, and the file the rest with the same number of strokes, starting each one with a clean file. The first one will take you a couple of minutes because you need to stop and weigh until you get it right. Once you have it down to the right weight, it shouldn't take you more that a minute each for the rest, including cleaning the file. No matter the condition of the file when you start, lead is soft enough to do the job quickly and easily. I would surely rather invest 30 minutes to get 24 jigs the right weight than invest the cost of getting a modified mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Mark I have had to go to your method. I got the 2/0 sickle hooks and the beads don’t allow enough room for the lead to flow around them on the 3/8 reduced to 5/16. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 1:57 PM, Jig Man said: Mark I have had to go to your method. I got the 2/0 sickle hooks and the beads don’t allow enough room for the lead to flow around them on the 3/8 reduced to 5/16. Glad i could help. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyduty Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 I put flat areas on ned heads, football jigs, and several others. I use a belt sander. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, heavyduty said: I put flat areas on ned heads, football jigs, and several others. I use a belt sander. Please wear some kind of respirator. Lead dust is bad to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
