MagicBob Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 they require a coat of laquer to set the ink. Then the Etex I used on it didn't seem to want to adhere. I had to keep brushing it for over an hour to prevent what they call "holidays" or spots where the epoxy pulled away. Anyone have recomendations on dealing with epoxy over laquer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Scuff the lacquer lightly. It will remove the sheen and give the epoxy a profile to get hold of. Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Yeh, but the laquer is very thin so the decal will conform to the compound curves, so I'm pretty sure it would mess up the decal. I was hoping for something chemical. Still you might be right. I will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overkill Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 just use some 1200 grit or superfine scotchbrite pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Beautiful bait btw, nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 they require a coat of laquer to set the ink. Then the Etex I used on it didn't seem to want to adhere. I had to keep brushing it for over an hour to prevent what they call "holidays" or spots where the epoxy pulled away. Anyone have recomendations on dealing with epoxy over laquer? Bob, How does that tail effect the action of the lure, compared to a conventional tail? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Husky, the tail waves so that it looks pretty much like a real trout swimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Go to wallyworld and get a can of Minwax polyactilic..Dip your lure in it,and let drip dry..(watch for any build up and absorb it up with a paper towel) when it is dry,you'll be good to go with your top coat..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNNEMusky Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 With the polyacrylic, can you use either devcon or etex as a topcoat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 When you say "decal" bob are you talking about the water slides or the decal paper? The bait looks wonderful but I hear what you are saying about adhesion. I worry too about adhesion on baits with decal/photo finish because your etex coat is only as good as the bond below it! Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Riverman, its a water slide decal. I'm not too worried about the decal adhesion for a couple of reasons. First, the Etex makes a pretty solid outer layer ( I put it on thick as this is a big bait) and even if the under layer delaminates a little it should hold up. I'll find out soon as I'll be fishing this bait a lot starting now. Second, nothing lasts forever and any paint job eventually gets torn up in use. I'm fishing for 10+ pounders so if it lasts long enough to catch one fish on each bait I won't be totally disapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Good point Bob and a beautiful bait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcDano Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nice Bait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 No luck with the Polycylic. The bait is too big to dip so when I brushed it on it attacked the decal and smeared it everywhere. It also seems to attack the Createx paint too. Next idea??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 If you used an inkjet printer, the ink is water souble. Try spraying the decal with three thin coats of Krylon clear. After it is completely dry then remove it in water the normal way and apply. Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I agree with Coley...your ink must not have set on the decals.Polyacrilic is a water based product,I've never had that problem....also make sure your decals are complete dry before applying..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Thanks for the input everyone. With the help of my friendly Ace Hardware guy (he really is good) we had figured out the Krylon (Matte Finish) instead of laquer. The decal material is from Testors and they use laquer to set the ink. Other suppliers of decal material I found online use Krylon. Bottom line I think the laquer is the problem. Doesn't seem to get along with anything. So I'm pretty sure switching to the other decal material and using Krylon will work. I'll let you know. One minor detail Nathan, you keep calling it Polyacrilic, but the label on what I bought says Polycrylic. I just want to be sure we're talking about the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Same stuff Bob. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Coley, I tried Krylon (went for the matte on the assumption Etex would adhere better). Still got places where the Etex pulls away (only on the decal not painted areas). Maybe the decal material is the culprit? I am ordering some different material online and I'm going to try Gloss Krylon. This one's making me crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Well, to completely solve the problem, get a laser printer. And you won't have to worr about it anymore. Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
