dv616 Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 I have been a huge fan of MF plastics so far, my most preferred plastic, but unfortunately over the course of a few months to a year, the baits become too oily and it makes a mess. You cannot store the baits in Plano style boxes due to the mess, and it even leaches out of the plastic bags I put the plastic in. Not sure if it just makes its way out of zipper or also finds a way to ooze out of the bag welded corners too. I have used some BP plastics but am not certain if that will leach over time or not. I would rather use a phthalate free plastisol. The BP seems to tear more easily than the MF. Not a huge fan of Dead On, more bubbles to deal with and tackiness than I am used to compared to MF and BP. Any recommendations on a great plastic to avoid this issue? I just threw out a few hundred baits due to this issue and would like to solve this problem, not have to deal with it again in the future. Unfortunately I have like 10 gallons of MF still to use though. I would prefer a floating plastic, but I may be asking for too much. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishermanbt Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 Have you tried to lay out the oily baits on a baking sheet for a few days to see if it subsides? I’m a fan of BP but noticed the baits some times get oily when sealed up in a bag. I have started leaving the plastic bag zippers slightly opened and it fixed it for the most part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiderunner Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 I've used MF almost exclusively and have never had this problem. I cure my baits for a few days, then bag them in reular store bought zip lock bags. I add scented worm oil and sprinkle with salt. I have some baits stored now as long as 3 years. All are still flexible and usable. Are you pouring plastic from a gallon jug or something bigger? It almost seems like an issue with cooking, or mixing. The only time I have experienced oily baits with MF is when I got lazy mixing the plastisol. I agree with the Dead On thing. That plastisol has always left me with tacky and oily baits. But not MF. Instead of throwing out your oily type baits, try what I did. Lube and salt them. I use either kosher salt or regular table salt. The only issue I have ever had over time is sometimes the laminated colors might leach into one another. But that's my own fault. I have tried BP, don't recall any major issues with it. But I may have to switch to it due to the lack of availablity of MF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv616 Posted September 2 Author Report Share Posted September 2 Which MF plastics are you using? I am using Bounce and Easy Stretch. I have a mix of gallon jugs and larger jugs. I might pour the plastic out into a 5 gallon bucket so it is easier to mix than the jugs. Maybe that will help. The oil always develops over time, they do not come out of the mold that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 9 hours ago, dv616 said: The oil always develops over time, they do not come out of the mold that way. Why not leave them hanging, lying straight or however you choose to let them cure in open air for a few days or weeks ? Does the oil not get absorbed back into the baits? Just asking because i let my baits hang by the sprue on nails in my garage wall & I never have that problem. I have had some that seemed a little oily when first demolding & i hung them up & let them cure & they have always been dry when i got some off of the wall to bag up to use. I usually try to shoot a bunch of each color though so i don't run out so that may be why i don't have a problem because some of mine are hanging for a few months before i use them. This has been with lureworks, bait junkys & bait plastics Edited September 2 by Les Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv616 Posted September 3 Author Report Share Posted September 3 The oil does not get absorbed back into the baits that are in bags. I just tossed about 200 baits yesterday that were in my Plano 3700 boxes. I leave baits on cookie sheets for an extended period of time before bagging (usually weeks). Eventually, those leach oil as well. It definitely is not a right out of the mold thing, they are perfect out of the mold. They just keep getting more and more oily with time. I will try laying some out in the air and see if ones that have become oily in bags dry out, but I have had them get oily why laying on baking sheets for an extended period of time (months). I do not think my BP baits have done this. I will need to do some more controlled testing and try to quantify the issue. I will also try transferring the MF plastic to easier to mix 5 gal pails in case that is part of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Have you tried putting something in one of the oily bags to see if it will absorb the oil? White rice maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 This oil leaching is a problem. The Calhouns never did that. Other brands do. Back when I was selling to stores I had frogs in clam shells. When I went back to check inventory a month later all the frogs had slid to the bottom of the clams and were all wadded up. There also was oil in the bottom of the clams. I am not sure,but I think that was Do-it plastisol. When Poly-Sol 1st came out and sent samples to a lot of us. I told them I would not use it because of oil leaching a few days after they were demolded. I think they reworked the recipe to solve it - not sure ? Are they now BP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Bass-Boys said: This oil leaching is a problem. The Calhouns never did that. Other brands do. Back when I was selling to stores I had frogs in clam shells. When I went back to check inventory a month later all the frogs had slid to the bottom of the clams and were all wadded up. There also was oil in the bottom of the clams. I am not sure,but I think that was Do-it plastisol. When Poly-Sol 1st came out and sent samples to a lot of us. I told them I would not use it because of oil leaching a few days after they were demolded. I think they reworked the recipe to solve it - not sure ? Are they now BP ? BP is a retail business, Polysol is a manufacturer and only sells to businesses buying volume. One of Polysol's owners is a part owner of BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRum Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 Calhouns! I stack tubes in plastic boxes and some are still around from years ago, bone dry! Calhouns will never leech a hint of oil, ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...