Bassmaster_Baiter Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 i'm fairly new to this plastic pouring thing.what are you guys using the paint for?is it for external detalils on your worms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 yup, I was told it could be used for veins & such, but requires a hypodermic & some skill while the plastic is still hot (liquid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassmaster_Baiter Posted July 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 now i see.i was picturing you painting with an airbrush or something along that line. thanks for the clarification.sounds like an interesting process, i'll have to see how bad i can mess that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Check out the details painted on red's frogs and minnows in the gallery. I hear the paint will airbrush too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 I've been making eyes and dots with Spike it bait paint. It is like nailpolish. So far I like it. It does not react with oils once dried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Untested, but could black paint be injected into the resin while still fluid using a hypodermic needle. This would give a true 3D effect. Redg8r suggested something similar for introducing veins in plastic, back in 2003 (search 'hypodermic'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 The only thing is, you need to make sure the paint will not react with the plastic. If it does, it could turn messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boneyard Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hello I am new to the site and ran across this thread on painting plastics. They make a paint that is used for painting plastics a friend of mine owns a Plastic injection molding business that makes baits for Mister Twister, Zoom and some other big name companies. I buy paint from him that is used to paint plastics the key to this paint is the thinner. The thinner of the paint is the same chemical that is used in PVC pipe cleaner. When used on the baits it soaks it up into the plastic and will not come off. If you buy the purple PVC pipe cleaner and dip one of your baits into it you will see what I am talking about. I use a air brush gun and spray this paint on shad and other baits works very well and you can cut out a design like eyes, scales etc. in cardboard or card stock and lay over the bait when you spray and give a custom design. Just thought I would add to this thread for what its worth.. Fish On !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I have 3 5gallon cans of the stuff and have been trying to figure out what to do with it, now I know thanks for the info, its time to play. Be careful, in pure form and left open in a confined space you will be dead in one breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlures Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Do you realy have that much soft plastic paint? If so would you like to sell some. I only want paint not PVC glue. I know its similar but its not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I have the pure solvent not the paint . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Can you can add worm colorant to get the desired color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boneyard Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm not sure about adding worm color to it. What I use that I get from the injection molding guy he mixes it for me the color is a powder and the thinner is a type of keytone that is used in PVC pipe cleaner and it only takes a small amount of the color it is mostly thinner. I have several gallons of this paint and have thought about getting more and selling it in the near future. I'm just not sure about how to ship it. It is very very flammable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 It is Methyl Ethyl Ketone, also known as MEK. It is extremely flamable and the fumes are extremely dangerous it is a killer without proper ventalation and precautions. The only way to ship is by truck or rail for 5 gallon cans, as a pipe cement or primer it can be shipped UPS but is diluted. I used it as a cleaner and thinner when painting steel with Epoxy paints and used an external air supply, it actualy melts the coat of paint your are applying into the previous coat. Im going to try and play with Del's colorants, what I think happens is the MEK melts the colorant or tint into the bait evaporates and the plastic melts itself back together. Normal surgical gloves will disolve in it, we used real rubber gloves for protection from the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 There may be a few kinds, but when I first got some of that paint from LC, I received retarder instead of the thinner. Figured I could clean my gun with MEK, I went ahead and sprayed, but it didn't clean the gun! After the thinner got here, that cleaned it up just fine, and have tried numerous things, just none that will thin or clean the LC stuff up but LC thinner. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Try a mixture of 3 to 1 MEK and Acetone, thats what we used as a mixture to prime and clean PVC pipe so you wouldnt see the purple goop smeared all over the place. Pure acetone not nail polish remover.MEK is what Ive used for years to clean all kinds of spray equipment even ones left dirty and hardened for weeks. Dump in the parts tub for a couple of days or a week and everything is melted or dissolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassn1 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I'm not sure about adding worm color to it. I tried MEK and worm color...it didn't work, I think the oil in the color has something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 What if you add powder coating paint to the hot plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Thats my next attempt, ordered some from LC Friday going to try mixing with MEK and injecting when it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 You need to use Toulene. This the solvent commonly used to thin the vinyl paint we are air brushing our lures with. I'm pretty sure it will work wtih LC's vinyl paints (Color Tech) They do sell that paint by the 1/2 gallon and gallon at Lurecraft as well. Its shipped by UPS as Hazardous Material when you get into quantities over 4 oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for heads up, have a gallon of that too will try both and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 No problem, I see Mattlures posting. He's probably the one to ask about this stuff. Hey Matt, any tips for us novices or is it still a secret remember this is TU where we share info..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGHUNNA Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Yeah Matt....where/how can I get one of those premium brim molds??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlures Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I make my living doing this so I cant tell all but I might help out a little. First I realy doubt you can inject the paint into the plastic. It doesnt work like that. No you can not buy one of my molds. It took many years of trial and error to work out the kinks. In the molds, not the baits. I can tell you guys this. I have learned very little from other people when it comes to making baits, If everything you learn is from sombody else than how can you design something better? I have experimented so much that I have actualy figured a couple things out. When I started, 8 out of 10 experiments failed. now most of them work. I see so many guys asking basic questions that would only take a minute to figure out by trying to. This site is absolutly the best there is for learning how to make baits but I see a ton of questions like Can I do this? or what will happen if I do this? well my answer would be try it and see. Of course sometimes its a matter of saving money or saftey but usualy its not. You will learn so much more by experimenting on your own AND using the info you get here. Than just by asking. The "panit" is deadly stuff and you need to be well ventilated. It is also a pain to use. It cloggs brushes quickly and is tempramental. BUT.... you can do some cool stuff with it. Get some, play with it, and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGHUNNA Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Just kidding about the mold Matt....I am in fact working on one of my own and you are correct in saying "Buy one...play with it...and learn"...I have. Thanks,Hawg Hunna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
