Celticav Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 How does this look over time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8flyz Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 I never liked using paint on threads, except for fly tying lacquers. I do use some enamel for the heads on tarpon flies, but I overcoat them with epoxy. If you do use paint on the threads, epoxy over the paint is the way to go in my opinion. However, on many of the flies I tie, that I don't epoxy coat the heads, I just use an approproiate color thread & give it a few coats of clear Sally Hansens Hard As Nails, which most often outlasts the rest of the fly. I have some old bucktail jigs that I bought and the threads were painted, and eventually the paint cracks & chips off without some kind of overcoating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Definately use an over-coat of epoxy for long lasting shine. Paint over thread becomes dull and lifeless in a very short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrav Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Lumocolor transparency markers by Staedtler will mark over head cements and epoxy. Colors are sometimes a bit strange due to their intended use. These are the type of waterproof, permanents used for overhead transparency presentations. Any craft, office, or stationary store should have them. Any fabric paint (Tulipslick, Scribbles) will also work on flies. It's actually pretty tough stuff as it's made for machine washing and drying. Might need a white undercoat for hot pink and yellow. I've actually used these to coat lead eyes in the past and it works well. Can even coat the paint with epoxy for gloss and extra durabilty. It may take a bit of practice to get used to using it and it's characteristics, but it comes in every imaginable color and is mghty cheap. Cool glitter colors and non-toxic, too. Hot glues come in many colors...they are nasty to work with sometimes. Kinda thick, set up fast, and that tip is quite hot for delicate work around materials. I advise staying away from them for small work. I haven't tried it yet, but the pearl powder colors from Lurecraft might look really cool if mixed in epoxy and painted on a fly head. Other companies might have a wider selection of powedered colors. Only problem with that one is the speed at which epoxy starts to set up...might waste alot of product if one doesn't work fast enough. jrav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Hey Jim, You asked, How does this look over time? (panting thread) Won't hold up. I always figured if I wanted a red head, I'd use red thread, Yellow or orange or green or what ever. Then as I've said before, coat it with clear lacquer. Sounds like gr8flyz uses the color thread also. I guess if you tie a lot of flies, color thread would be the way to go. If a person makes one or two a week and has the time to dip, blend, blast, cook and poke with a needle point, Then that's ok. Hmmm wonder what it would be like to just make one or two a week, Heck I'd have time to go fishing. Maybe I should change my ways...LOL just kidding, I enjoy what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted July 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Thanks all for the replies everyone, I should have been a little more discriptive in my original post. What I did was put a drop of cement on my knot and when that was dry I painted over the thread wraps with enamel then coated with devcon. It was very tedious, I had to spin that thing for what seemed like forever to get the epoxy to lay down. Of the three I did this too, one has already chipped (riprap rocks on a long cast do that) and looks like crapola, just wondering if all my effort was worth it. I live in GA and flyfishing is an alien practice here, I have to drive over an hour to get to any store that has tying supplies (BPS in Atlanta) so was just trying to explore my options. I love what alot of you guys do with your baits, what I tie is subpar in comparison, Thanks again for the responses, I think I will just keep going like I have been. Deadly Streamer: Have you tried the Soft Bait Glue yet? I like it, really soaks in to the nylon thread. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Hi ya Jim, Yep, I've tried that soft bait glue on just about every thing except fly's. Seems like every time I open it I get stuck to the lid or the bottle or one finger to another. I can't imagine getting it in my feathers and on my hands. Someone might think somebody tried to glue and feather me. LOL I like the glue. It's great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...