Elken Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I have a friend that has an on-line tackle shop. He want's to sell hooks under his own label and wants me to package them up. I have been making and selling jigheads, so I have have the experience and packaging materials to do this. My question is this: if we buy bulk hooks in 1000 pks, are there any issues with reselling them under his store's name? As in "John's Tackle Shop's Premium Bass Hooks"? Or is it better to include on the label the original manufacturer's name, model # or logo? Thanks : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I believe that if you pay the original maker of the hooks for them, it is ok. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elken Posted August 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Thanks for your reply. So if we are buying them a wholesaler like Captain Hooks Warehouse or Shorty's Hooks we can't re-label them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicknite Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hmmm... I think if you were using them as a part of a new product, they couldn't say anything about it, but just repackaging and selling might raise some eyebrows... I'm not an attorney - I have seen them on TV tho... I know several folks who have licenses to repackage things... Maybe you should just hit *67 (Kills Caller Id) and call them - ask if they have a problem with people buying their items bulk and repackaging for resale. Just my $.02. d|:^) Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 If you are buying bulk from a wholesaler, why would you need his permission to re sell those hooks under your own label? I don't think you need permission to do that. I think it is already implied in the fact that you are purchasing 1000ct packages from a wholesale distributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elken Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 It's a gray area. If I am buying jig hooks and pouring jigs and selling them, no problem, right? Same with spinnerbait hooks, or treble hooks on crankbaits or spoons... Re-packaging wholesale hooks isn't exactly the same as making lures, but still I am buying them, adding value (packaging and labels) and selling them. I guess I can try Dick's suggestion, use *67 and disguise my voice... Thanks for the input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhopper Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 If you are buying bulk from a wholesaler, why would you need his permission to re sell those hooks under your own label? I don't think you need permission to do that. I think it is already implied in the fact that you are purchasing 1000ct packages from a wholesale distributor. It depends on the hook, if it is under a in force patent, this is what will happen, the patent owner would sue you, as thye would not know you actually bought "all" the hooks you are selling from them, you might be having a third party make some of them instead of just using "theirs", in which case they would probabaly stop you , because they want their design assocated with thier company name only Just to let you know , there are only "five" hook "manufacturing" companies in the whole wide world, yet there are hundreds of hook companies. If the design is not under a in force patent, any of the manufacturers would gladly let you put your name on "their" hooks, unless they are sold only under one hook companies name (they had the manufacture make them for them, and for them only, as they will not jeprodize that compaiies buisenss for you to sell a few thousand hooks, neither will any of the other four manufacturers, as they will be trying to get that buisness ot other buisness from the name brand) SO it just depends on the hook your wanting to resell, if it is a standard design sold by more than one company, you will have no problem, if it is a hook only sold by one company, they will shut off your supply. If the hook is well known by a company name, you would be able to market it better under that name , than your own, just buy them wholesale and resell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I still don't get it, my example is this, you can go to Shorty's or any wholesaler and buy 1000ct packs of Matzous for 50.00 give or take a few bucks. Since only retailers or somebody with a tax ID number can buy from these places, they have to know you are reselling them. What does it matter to Matzou, they are wholesaling these hooks, the more you sell, the more you buy to restock. Why wholesale them at all in bulk if it would become an infringement issue. Who the hell is going to buy Matzou hooks if they are labeled, Matzou? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhopper Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I still don't get it, my example is this, you can go to Shorty's or any wholesaler and buy 1000ct packs of Matzous for 50.00 give or take a few bucks. Since only retailers or somebody with a tax ID number can buy from these places, they have to know you are reselling them. What does it matter to Matzou, they are wholesaling these hooks, the more you sell, the more you buy to restock. Why wholesale them at all in bulk if it would become an infringement issue. Who the hell is going to buy Matzou hooks if they are labeled, Matzou? lol when selling 1,000 hooks wholesale they don't think anyone would relabel so few hooks, they are maybe sold for making lures, or jigs or what ever. I have bought many hooks by the thousand box, and never even sold any of them, much less thought bout relabeling them. Just give the company a call and ask them if it's OK, chances are high it is, they may even give you a better price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I understand, I was looking at this as if a guy was reselling EWG hooks, not hooks used for making spinnerbaits and jigs etc. I see the point now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elken Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Thanks for the comments everyone. Earthworm77: what you don't like Matzuo hooks? I know it isn't a big name brand, but they are sharp and I have had good luck with them in jigheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I have found that any fish I hook with a Matzou...over two pounds has a tendancy to roll the point. I build all of my baits on Gammies, they cost more but definately worth not having my customers curse me. Not specifically picking on them though, I do see their hooks available in bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
