GB GONE Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 After reading the tutorials on powder painting, I proceeded to try a few heads. I heated my jigs, dipped them...all going as planned. After dipping them and letting them cool for just a couple minutes, I put the heads back in to "cure".... After a couple of minutes I went back to check on them and my paint was dripping off the heads onto the bottom of the toaster oven .... What did I do wrong and how much is a new toaster oven as the CFO (Chief Female Officer) is a little miffed ????!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickerel Pete Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 To much paint or to mich heat. Heat only enough to make the powder stick to the jig. Make sure paint is fluffy in the container before dipping. Only heat at the temperature recomended to cure. For harder finish cure a little longer. Toaster ovens from second hand store should be purchased for doing this. Saves on heated discusions with the cook. Hope this helps. Garry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmaster Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Pickerel Pete nailed it. Especially the part about not using dear wifeys good toaster oven....lol If you want to continue to make lures with your appendages intact........always respect dear wifes requests...........ha Regards Lefty (JM) www.daimonlures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Pickeral Pete is absolutely right. If you re-read the reply I sent you a couple of posts down on your first. It should help. Do-not keep the hot jig in the powder to long, do not bake the jigs at too high of a temperature. Every paint color has its own quirks, also every paint brand has its quirks also. You must keep the paint fluffy. If its too humid where you're at, try to have two containers of the same paint. Keep one in a very dry place, then use the other one', then alternate. Every paint manufacturer has its own cure time and temp. Pro-tech is pretty consistent. I bake(cure) all my jigs at about 325 deg. temp. for about 15 min. You will have to do some trial and error to see what works for you. Also if this is a hobby, which I'm sure it is, do not use good everyday household items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Thanks all....I dunked those bads boyz, swirled them around a bit and then took them out. I'm sure there was way to much paint on them...They may not even have been hot enough as it took a little bit for the powder to melt... I am using the Pro-tec powder. The heads still came out real nice except for a few spots. Can I re-heat them to smooth out the paint??? Next is some devcon for the brushes and the head (probably add some glitter in that) then hair and skirt them up.... Guess I just bought a new toaster oven for the wife!!! WOW those few jig heads were expensive :grin: !!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Ive found it easier to head the heads over a tourch for initial painting then putting in oven to cure. I found that if you preheat in oven they start to cool before you are done. Tourch takes less time overall and they will be hot when painting. If paint doesnt melt all the way i just run it through the flame a few times and it smooths out. Just make sure you dont hold jigs too close to base of flame or leave in flame too long because they do melt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Another point on using toaster ovens is that the temperature controllers (normally potentiometers) are very inaccurate. So where as you may think your set point is 325 F, in fact it could be +/- 5 to 15 F from that set point. I place a thermocouple wire (type T) in the center of my toaster oven and control the temperature of the oven to a thermocouple reader. A thermometer and even a RTD device can be used. According to a powder paint manufacturer it is not recommended on using communal ovens for your projects ? the claim was that some paints do off gas vapors. Don't trust lead (vapors, dust or heated) and try to be very careful around it. Ghostbaits ? you can probably reheat your jigs to smooth them out but if you used too much paint to begin with you won't be satisfied with the results. Clean them up, start over again, or donate them?? Has anybody tried the rock-wall hardness test? Put your painted jig on a wall and hit it with a rock. If the paint comes off ? you have some homework to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Hey Ledhed..Is that like rock, paper, scissors??? :grin: I'm sure mine would not stand up to that yet...I'll work on these again as they are real nice jig heads...5/8oz with a 60 degree owner hook. Staright from Ebay ... Just bought a few to play around with... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmaster Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Jigheads from EBAY? Awww, ghost.........gimme a shout.......I will pour ya some good jigheads! JM www.daimonlures.com Truth be known........i sell a fair amount of stuff on ebay, too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 byron....I actually bought some stuff from you on Ebay a while back under my dan_the_man26 account...Named for my son... They were the fluke spins....looked great!!!! Never even got to fish the darn things as my tackle was all stolen right afer that.... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigmaster Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 that is absolutely correct! A couple of the flutters..........! MAn, too bad you got stolen..........that sucks Hey, if you need some specialty heads.........give me a call.....we do all kinds of custom stuff for guys. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topppher Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Ghost. This may be a problem that no one here has seen yet, please tell me the symptoms... is there paint missing in spots? Now, I don't mean thin, but totally clean looking lead, surrounded by powder coat. This is from impurities like silicone residue from a custom mold. I have had this happen with a new silicone mold before, but after about 25 pours, I stopped seeing the problem... I have put too much powder on before and never had it drip off, I have had some cone headed jigs... but never drip totally off. If it took a while for the powder to melt around, it does not sound like that is the case. Also, once the powder is cured, it will not do much good at all to try to smooth it out, but there are strippers that can take the stuff off. I use acetone, which takes a terribly long time, but after a while you can peel the coating off when it is still wet with acetone... don't soak and let dry cuz you sill be back to where you started. Good luck, and let me know... Chris Wolfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
