GB GONE Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I'll start up this post as the other is getting long and may loose some individuals... Jim O'Connor Ghost Baits I DO NOT feel as though my plastic is usable with regards to realistically pouring baits for myself or customers in a normal fashion. next....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 You know I am having problems, I am the one who started the long thread. I do not like to add very much salt, but in order to get the baits to sink I have to (because of the bubbles). I just got some M-F in yesterday. I will try it when I get a chance and post results. On another note, I do not feel this should reflect poorly on Del. He has been super with his service and help on other issues for me. I will continue to buy my molds, color, glitter, etc. from him. I started pouring for the enjoyment, but fighting bubbles takes alot of the fun out of it for me. Thanks guys. Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass4cache Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I too was having lots of bubbles, to the point of foam a few times. Wasting lots of time cooking and scraping bubbles off the top. I tried everything to get rid of them and nothing would change it. I never officially complained to Del because I figured it was my process, after switching to MF I know it wasnt my process. I would have to agree that Del's service is top notch and I figure given enough time he will get the problem resovled. I would have to agree that the calhouns plastic is not acceptable for MY application. Quality starts with quality materials, one thing wrong in the mix and it wont work. My customers expect quality just like I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 It sucks that my recent batch is doing what it is.....the one gallon jug of Calhouns that I purchased for testing was great, it didn't have a single bubble. I ordered 5 gallons and the bubbles are so bad I can't use it. I have read mixed replies from Del and that is one reason I haven't called to complain. I'm not sure where a phone call would have gotten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbasser Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Like I said my 1 gallon was great. The 5 gallon sucked because of bubbles. After a lot of reheating and stirring it was fine but it took lots of time and definetly came that way, NOT my process! Going to try MF, like people have said though it has NOTHING to do with Delw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 OK...I'll say what everybody is dancing around and maybe the reason some won't come forward.... If you complain, you think you might risk loosing one of the best sources of aluminum molds, colorant and worm oil, etc. there are. This has nothing to do with Del or his business. He is and has been great to deal with. I will continue to shop with Delw regardless of the plastisol issue. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james bradshaw Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I bought two five gallon buckets from Del last summer, one bucket was great the second bucket had so many bubbles, That it took forever to pour anything. I buy it by the drum now, and don't have any bubble problems. I hope it stayes that way! Just my two cents, Nothing against Del! He does have a very good customer service, and very good products! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 First I heard of this post was after to talking to Del last night. I should let you all know he is very concerned and is having Calhouns test the platisol he has. We buy our Calhouns in 50 gallon drums and I have had it happen once in three years, but I think our salt had moisture in it. I know he will let everyone know as soon as he get the results back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmang Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Me too. Like someone said in the other thread I thought bubbles in the plastic were just part of the process and I had to just deal with it. I agree too this is not a reflection of Del. He has been great to work with and will continue to get my business. I would like to see Calhoun step up to the plate and do the right thing. Take care, Shmang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahAngler Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 This still shows that it is something wrong with the buckets they package them in. No problems with 50 gallon drums or 1 gallon buckets. The 5 gallon bucket I bought has a lot of bubbles in it but I can still use it for what I use it for. Im not selling baits so its not as big a problem for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 My last five gallon bucket is not usable either. Tons of bubbles and foam. I am going to M-F. I will still buy molds and such from Del however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley-cowboy Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 DEL, We ALL know you are not the manufacture of Calhouns Plastics. This has no reflection on you or your molds..... When I got my first gallon of Calhouns, it was GREAT... Then I went to the 5 gal and that is where my problems with FOAM & BUBBLES Started... I called Calhouns and Posted their Phone # and Address in here... BUT SOMEONE ? ? DELETED my INPUT. AGAIN, DEL..... I know you are concerned over this. IT AIN'T YER FAULT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 About the packaging, someone said it is only in 5 gallon buckets. I am having bubble problems, and all I use is 1 gallon buckets of calhoun's plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassnG3 Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Just another with bubble problems. My latest came in two buckets I think they were 3 gallon buckets because Del was out of plastic so he sent 1st shipment in a 3 gallon bucket then later sent me the rest in another 3 gallon bucket. Both buckets had bubble problems but like I have stated earlier I was convinced problem was due to humidity. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 This second post was added August 2nd and now it is August 26th....Has anybody heard anything from Del or Calhoun's about the issue??? I know Calhoun's was "looking into it". The previuos discussion on this was posted ever earlier than the 2nd!!!! Seems to me a group of chemists could easily figure out what chemical(s) are causing the problem. Just wondering if anything is going to ever come of it or will the issue just be left unresolved and die...I'm still wondering what to do with my 3 gallons of unacceptable product Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Jim: I ahve about 1 gallon of useless plastic left as well. Herre is what I am doing with it. I am using it to test new colors. I try something on the calhoun's, and if I like the formula I use it in MF plastic for fishing. Just a thouhgt. Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 That is fine but what about our good $$$$$...I use old plastic to make prototypes etc. Peaves me to spend good money and get questionable goods. If there was a store close by, this would be a definite return item!!!! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I think its funny how the person who I purchased my Calhouns from has yet to reply to this thread ....He has replied to many other threads, but not this one. Its typical, that's why I haven't bitched more personally to him. Customer service should be # 1 and it is if your spending money ...but if you spent the money and have problems ....its never addressed, at least not publicly when he should be. I know its not his problem that there IS a problem with the Calhouns plastic...but to avoid it publicly doesn't speak well for his co. and that's much worse then him having a small problem with his plastic supplier. Even if none of the defective product gets replaced it would be nice to see a reply saying we are working on it and please be patient until its rectified....some shipments are good and others are bad....it gets blamed on moisture ...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookiepourer Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 I have also had a problem with Calhouns plastic forming bubbles on me. I don't use a microwave so I can't comment on that. With the pouring pots my bubbles are real small and don't dissipate. I haven't poured any baits without salt due to this problem. I don't know what the problem is but think it's a humidity factor. When I got my last batch of plastic in July , 2 gallons, I didn't have this problem. I poured alot of beavers without salt and nothing was wrong. The humidity has been unusually high here in So.Cal. this summer and am thinking that this is the cause. I hope we get some kind of info back on some remedy. I need to pour some baits without salt and really can't afford to buy more plastic Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippp Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Could it be that Del is purchasing the plasitc in bulk (55 gal?) and repackaging into smaller containers. Maybe it has something to do with the 5 gal. containers themselves or in the repackaging process. Just a thought. I don't know if it matters, as I haven't seen any posts on this thread from Calhoun's supplier, Del, if anything is or has been done to make things right. I use LureCraft. Cheers, Syd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuMMeRBaits Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Same problems here with my Calhouns. Looks like a nice beer head in my plastic after heating it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Ok...there are WAY more than 2 or 4 with issues....To bad we don't have an association (refer to the Docks section)!!! We would have a leg to stand on then!!! This way, we are all just waiting for something that probably is not going to be responded to... Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Maybe I'm lucky but I've gone through about 15 gallons of Calhouns in the past 2 months and I have no negative issues with it. I just got a 2.5 gallon jug and it is fine Obviously there has been a problem, hopefully it is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahAngler Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I realize that the product cant be used for some but seems to me that the best way to remedy the problem is to just buy plastic somewhere else and chock it up to lesson learned because its just not going to be replaced. Of course they dont care if as many as a dozen people dont buy their plastic. They make thousands of gallons a day. The only one that it may hurt is Del in the long run. I agree customer service is the best way to keep people coming back. But some companies seem to make it work without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish_N_Fool Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 For you guys that are having problems with bubbles in your pastic, it is not the plastic that is the problem, it is water getting into the plastic. Proper storage will fix most of your problems, but any plastic can be fixed by cooking it once and let it cool and cooking it again. This removes all the mosture and your bubble troubles will be gone. I sometimes add water to get the bubbles if I'm pouring a topwater bait. It helps the baits float better. Proper storage in a sealed container will eliminate 95% of your problems. I only use Calhoun plastic, it is by far the best handpour plastic I have used. Calhoun may have had some 5 gal. buckets that had a little water in them and caused this to start with. But remember if you have any problems just cook it twice and it will come out perfect every time. The other thing to watch out for is mosture in your salt. Salt draws mosture very fast. I store my salt in an airtight container and preheat my salt to remove any mosture before grinding it and adding it to my plastics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
