Toddo1513 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I was just shown a Big Jerry and an LL-20 and they were both made of foam. Does anybody know when this change from wood to foam occurred? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Jerry still uses banak by my knowledge. However, he does use some foam molds, but I'm not sure which specific lures he's using foam for currently... havent talked with him in a couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I have never seen a Lohrs bait made from foam. How do you know it was foam? I am not doubting you, I am just curious. I know one of the people that he bought the business from. I do know that the previous baits were made of wood and cut from routers. Sometimes the bodies got pretty sloppy. It would not suprise me to see him go to foam. He could do alot more volume that way. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddo1513 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 A friend of mine was trying to refinish an LL-20 and accidentally sanded thru the tail (with ease), then just cut it in two. It was plain to see that it was a foam bait. We checked a Big Jerry he had and it also was foam. The packaging looks the same as the wood baits, but the lip on the Jerry looked like it was hand made (not the usual lohr's printed lip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesportsman Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Interesting, I was in Lexington today and was talking about Jerry's baits with a friend. We were looking at them and it the bigger crankbaits were Banak and the smaller ones were Balsa. I have several that are banak but havent seen foam yet. I havent bought any in a long time so its very possible that he has gone to foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop10 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 actually, I know a good friend of Jerry's and just talked to him about a number of things he does. He is not doing any foam molds. He is using some foam-type material and is cutting it with a router just like the wood baits. I know that he has been making these baits for about three years because I talked to Jerry about it at the Raleigh winter fishing show three Decembers ago, and bought one from him. He said then he was doing it to have something different, and at that time was pushing them. He has also begun cutting Lexan with a press, rather than having someone make him some injection molded lips. I haven't seen any of the baits with the lexan lips, but he has actually sent some of the lips my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Jerry is doing banak, molds and has carved some from square 1' X 1' blocks. I provided him the HDU blocks back in spring. He uses molds also because we attempted to order and pour the HDU chemicals together, however the company wouldnt sell in that form to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddo1513 Posted September 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 If you don't mind me asking, what exactly is HDU ? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 High Density Urethane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoRoller Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Also talked to him at length at the boat shows and he uses (or at least experiments) foam injection molds for some of his baits. Jerry said he can make baits faster with the foam (like Skeeter mentioned) and even wanted to make a mold of one of our baits "for us". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop10 Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 jeez, I get this kind of grief from guys I fish with. All I'm doing is repeating what someone -- whom both of you know but knows Jerry far better than either of you -- told me he is doing now. And if he has swith off to HDU, it would certainly make sense that he is cutting the baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoRoller Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 No grief Scoop, just conversing about what Jerry told me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vcouldcoach Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Jerry has made foam baits from the very beginning. He made a limited amount since he had difficulty getting the weight and density right. A couple of years ago he made several hundred Poes 300 & 400 copies that were perfect. They threw good and ran great. He has since refined his process and is making more baits out of foam. He has changed his bill material since he sold his bill molds to Ed Chambers. He still makes wood baits out of banak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddo1513 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Funny you mention the lips and Ed Chambers, because the line ties in Jerry's new lips now look exactly like the ones in WEC baits. But from what you said, I think it should be the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vcouldcoach Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Jerry started hand making his line ties on the new Big Jerry because he extended the bill and his old line ties were not long enough. You should have only noticed the different line tie on the Big Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddo1513 Posted September 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 You are exactly right. I only saw this on the Big Jerry. I'd really like to see how those line ties are made. They are precisely bent and very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
