Senkosam Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Does anyone use it in place of adding colorant to hot plastisol? I get some great colors after swabbing it on with a pipe cleaner and laminates are super easy rather than pouring twice. If I want a bright tip on a soft stick, I pour a little clear saltwater plastic and the rest soft plastic. (ie hardnose baits by Mann). I then dip the tip in a bright color and apply a dot of black Chunk Paint with the back of a drill bit. Just wondering if there might be any disadvantages down the road of selling these color-short-cut baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmik26 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 We tried putting this die in hot plastic and it was like a mini explosion, plastic was splatering everywhere. Would try it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I added some Chart. lure dye once in the the plastic. I used it like any color I got from Del. The color was good and stayed that way. I was told it would eventually become dull, but I have not seen it. I am not sure how cost effective it would be. I have not put the pencil to the paper because I do not really use those types of colors much. Let me know how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I would never put this stuff in hot plastic! It's highly volatile and is as bad as water in hot plastisol. Just wondering if customers would except plastics that were surface colored with Spike-It or Colorite. Both companies offer good deals to handpourers who make and sell bait. Spike-It also carries a colorant that you mix in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 senkosam, I'm not sure how this is speeding things up? Aren't you still doing 2 pours then having to dip? If this is the case, wouldn't it just be easier to pour it in chartreuse instead of pouring it in clear and dipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I figure that if I have a lure ordered in watermelon, pumpkin and chartreuse, I don't have to cook up anything but clear plastic, after which all I have to do is dip the clear lures or swab on colors for laminates, which are a real pain to pour in molds that have small pour spouts. Here's an example of a firetiger pattern: The plastic was clear with .090 black flakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE73 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Senkosam, you would want to pass on your recipe for that firetiger. I have been playing with colors and still having come up with nothing that I like, but I do like the looks of that bait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Clear plastic, softener, .090 black flake (distort into weird shapes) and then I used Spike-It chartreuse and fire orange, swabbed on with a Q-tip. Lighter colors fade a bit in sunlight after a month, after which I apply more dye to freshen the colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamdiarrhea Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Beautiful firetiger! Haven't posted much here, just check in from time to time, great bunch of people and great info. I've been pouring for almost 20 years, started out thinking I was going to get rich but soon realized it was a lot of work trying to keep up with orders, hold a full time day job, and still have a little time to get out fishing on the weekends. Now I "recreationally" pour for myself and friends. I use spike-it quite a bit for striping, tips, etc, rather than mess with mixing up additional colors but have problems with the dye bleeding after packaging baits together and packing them around in the boat. How do you get around this? Thx, Team-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmik26 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 SenkoSam - I have to say that bait looks awsome! Look like it should be sitting on a shelf in a glass case somewhere, great job!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Thanks, fish sure as H*** like it, especially picks.(Lost 10 in one morning! ) After a few months, colors will migrate through the entire plastic. My biggest use of dye is single color enhancements:ie chart/gold flake/chart dye; chart. over pearl; pumpkin dye on craw trailer bodies/ chart dye on claws; quickly used laminates : pumpkin on half/ chart on half using dye over clear. Multiple pours are the only way to insure little bleed, but even chart and red will bleed into light opaque baits. I do use Original Fish Formual oil to keep the skins from touching in the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...