Blue Streak Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Just wondered if anyone has tried making a similar bait? The originals are selling for big bucks on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Yes, I'm making a bait I designed about 5 years ago but unfortunately I felt that it would never catch on with the public. It is similar to the Chatterbait but the blade will not spin, thus it eliminates any line twist. I've used them for years with success. I guess it just goes to show how a little exposure can really help a bait along. In that past several weeks, my sales have sky rocketed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Streak Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Thanks Earthworm, I have ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop10 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I'm making some, but just for my own personal use right now. The only reason I'm doing that is because they all jumped off the shelves at one place that carried them in my town after that guy's classic finish. I suspect the hubbub will wear down eventually. These are effective lures, but the prices being paid for something that is not very hard to construct are astounding. I can make one of these baits in 10 percent of the time that I spend making a wooden crankbait. Heck, if I had a press to stamp out the foil I could make a bait in 5 minutes. The only reason that I came over here from the hard bait forum was to see if there was any talk about the Chatterbait. It is living up to its name. It is creating a chatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Streak Posted March 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thanks Scoop, you are right they do create a chatter. I can't believe the prices people are paying for them. I understand you can make them with Aeker Shaker blades. And it is funny, they have been around before Rad brought them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamarocks Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 i have making a bait very close to a chatter bait. i have been selling them faster than i can make them. got a couple of the flw pros fishin with mine and one of the guys has bought 4 dozen and just called last week wanting two dozen more. they really do work well around here especially on guntersville. made a few modifications to my mold and and thats about it. cuttin the blades by hand at the moment but just hooked up with a guy at a die shop and hes gonna cut me some blades. should make it alot faster for me to get em done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoBits Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 How are you attaching the blade to the eye of the hook ? The Eaker Shakers would be very simple to use , just have to drill another hole at the bottom of the blade. But getting it on the eye of the hook is the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVaGitzit Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah that was the one thing I was wondering. How are you attaching them to the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamarocks Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 its not in the hook eye the hook in the bait is a spinnerbait hook and you use a pc of 41 wire that sticks out of the head then you use round nose pliers to make the loop and attach the blade dont loop the wire b4 you paint it its a bitch to clean paint off after you have looped it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CullinHogs Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I have heard that those who are making chatterbait knockoffs will be receiving a "cease and desist" very soon as Zman now holds the patent on it. they will soon be available on the end caps at wall mart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamarocks Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 mine is not a knock off and i wont quit til they quit sellin this is my own mold and my own blade so i wont quit dont care where they are sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CullinHogs Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Rock-on Bama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castmaster Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 its my understanding patents on fishing tackle are very hard to enforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CullinHogs Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 it is a lot easier when your last name is Zucker. zman's net worth is over 1 billion, forbes 346th richest American. He is waist deep in lawyers, he has to wear chest waders so none of the stuff sticks on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop10 Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 He better have a billion, because that's about what it will take. or maybe Ledford will sue him, since he's been making these baits for longer than Radchad. This is just another one of the deals where all anyone has to do is create some modifications to the basic design and they would never lose. Now, obviously someone can hire a lawyer and intimidate people. Some poor shmuck making lures out of his garage wouldn't have a chance. But just wait 'til one of the big boys goes and pays Ledford or someone else $50,000 for the rights to the name of their bait (and that's what they'll pay for, naming rights), then sells it and dares Radchad to sue. They'll be able to claim - "my bait was first." In two years time, there will be five or six "chatterbaits" on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderbasser Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Tell me what you guys think. What would be wrong with using any given jig mold of your choice with a 60 degree hook. Prior to molding, take a tapered punch and onpening the eye just enough to fit the blade into and use a pair of pliers,vise, etc. to close it back after inserting the blade. I think you can accomplish this with a tempered hook... might break a forged hook though. Anyway, the only difference I can see is that your blade might be slightly closer to the hook point but I can't see that as being a problem. Just seems like a lot of trouble to me having to fabricate and incorporate an extra part. JMHO. What do yall think..will this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Border, only thing I'd worry about is the close proximity to the line itself. If the blade slips out of the eye and goes up the line it will cause abrasion, I'd also worry about the blade hitting the line durung a normal retrieve. I think the use of a snap is a must to prevent this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamarocks Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 my almost chatter baitis still selling well here and it keeps catching fish. i fished the bfl last saturday and won the co-angler side with 15-11 and won big fish with a 5-13. before i left the tourney i had orders for 200 more so i will be busy in the weeks ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderbasser Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Earthworm, I don't understand what you mean about the blade slipping up the line. I was just talking about permanently attatching the blade to the line tie (hook eye of the jig) and then attaching a snap lock swivel near the center of the blade as a line tie. This would almost be identical to the Rad Lures Chatterbait. My question was if it was possible to open the eye of the jig hook with a tapered punch to be able to attach the blade and then closing it up in a vise or with a pair of pliers. My other question was if anyone could see any down sides to this method. I had heard that Rad Lures was not attaching the blade to the hook eye, but rather molding a spinnerbait hook and some other component in the head of the jig to serve as the eye to attach the blade. That just seems like a lot of trouble. By the way, I did try opening the eye on a 60 degree 5/0 mustad with a punch and then closing it up again and it worked. It was a little tough getting the eye closed up as tightly as it was originally with a pair of pliers, but I think it is close enough the blade will not slip out. Thanks for the replies. TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderbasser Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Earthworm, I don't understand what you mean about the blade slipping up the line. I was just talking about permanently attatching the blade to the line tie (hook eye of the jig) and then attaching a snap lock swivel near the center of the blade as a line tie. This would almost be identical to the Rad Lures Chatterbait. My question was if it was possible to open the eye of the jig hook with a tapered punch to be able to attach the blade and then closing it up in a vise or with a pair of pliers. My other question was if anyone could see any down sides to this method. I had heard that Rad Lures was not attaching the blade to the hook eye, but rather molding a spinnerbait hook and some other component in the head of the jig to serve as the eye to attach the blade. That just seems like a lot of trouble. By the way, I did try opening the eye on a 60 degree 5/0 mustad with a punch and then closing it up again and it worked. It was a little tough getting the eye closed up as tightly as it was originally with a pair of pliers, but I think it is close enough the blade will not slip out. Thanks for the replies. TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Borderbasser, I once had an occasion that I needed to open the eye of the hook just a bit and this is the method that I used, may be a bit easier than the punch method. Take a pair of sidecutter dykes and pinch the cutting edges where the eye of the hook ends. This spreads the eye open as you close the cutters, if you need it open more just lever the dykes till it is open the amount you need. Hope that was some help. George Reeves H&P Tackle Welch, OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Sorry, Border, I guess I wasn't seeing what you were explaining. I thought you were trying to rig the blade over the eye of the jig and tying directly to that eye with your line. I just imagined the blade catching a rock and getting all FUBAR with the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Just got a Sale Catalog from Bass Pro and guess what? Gambler has a chatterbait, calls it a swimblade jig, on sale for $4.49 (reg. $4.99). Only comes in 3/8 oz. and 6 colors. Don't take long does it? George Reeves H&P Tackle Welch, OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaBasser Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 How big is the blades you are using for the chatterbait style lure? Dimensions, hole placements,also does it have to have the same blade shape as the original, or can you round off corners? PaBasser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hi Guys, I have the same questions as PaBasser, along with how do you get the blade on the hook. If someone could give me the different sizes of blades, that go on the different sizes of jigs, I would be willing to make a drawing, and post it on this site. I would like to make some of these for myself to try out, but don't know where to start . Getting material and getting them cut , and or bent is not a problem. Is there anyone out there willing to help out with some of this information. Thanks Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
