bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 i am a tournament fisherman that wishes to expand his arsenal. my partner and i currently make our own jigs and jig heads. now I'm ready to up grade to my own plastics for several reasons. i love to fish and i love coming up with something new. its hard to beat catching a fish on something you personally made. Ive been doing my research for a while now and I'm a little stuck as for what molds to begin with not the type of baits but the molds selves i need some opinions please. sorry for the long talk but its my first post on this site I'm just exited. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 IMO If your going to buy them I think it's hard to beat aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 like the ones del mart has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah either his or Bobstackleshack, When I first started I bought silicone, but slowly over the last year I've upgraded to aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 As a fellow Oklahoman, I want to warn you that making your own bait is addicting. Soon you won't be able to carry your soft plastic bait bag around. Then you will need two bags. It only gets worse. Seriously, welcome aboard. The aluminum molds are the very best. Lurecraft has the rubber molds that work, but don't last all that long. You can even make your molds, but wait a bit on that to make sure that is what you want to do Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 thanks for all the help its hard to beat a good okie. and I'm not just to far from madil. and the bug already exist. i make some awsome jigs and jig heads for shakeyhead worms. our design exist no where else. i want to start with a beaver mold i just love the lure my only concern is that its got a flat side Ive never used a hand poured beaver before does it still work as well. my wife one time said that she wished i was addicted to hard core drugs, because you can seek help for that fishing has no cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrawChuck Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 You can make a full body two-piece mold from RTV silicone or plaster/gypsum cement. I personally never really liked flat sided baits but to each his own. I guess I'm gonna have to try a Beaver after all the talk here...maybe make it smaller and call it a muskrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 the alum. molds are flat sided correct. and the plaster tech. seems like a big mess, as for the resign dont know to much about it. with two sided molds is it not hard to pour separate top and bottom colors. I'm sure i will soon fig. things out on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrawChuck Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Good luck then! Multi colors are easy on two piece molds. If you don't mind an Arkie helping you out??? Quality aluminum molds are no doubt the best bet for the long run and are full body. If you can afford them they are the way to go for generic baits and you might even find someone to custom make a mold for your own design. Plaster/gypsum is easy once you learn and there are some good tutorials here to help you. I never made an RTV or Resin mold but some good ones have been made by others here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 For trailers on a jig, the "flat" sided beaver baits are very hard to beat!!! They glide a whole lot better and fish better in vegetation or wood. I saw a nice 4 cavity beaver mold on eBay that would not be bad to start with: http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5in-Beaver-4-cavity-fishing-lure-mold-not-aluminum_W0QQitemZ7228240420QQcategoryZ31691QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I am not sure about this mold but it would beat the $$$ for the aluminums and you can always re-sell it. 2 color or laminate baits are a challenge but to me they are much easier to pour in a 2 part mold.. Just my opinion though!!! PS Shows us some shakey heads!!!! I am always looking for something new to pair up with my plastics!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 who has the best two part beaver mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Not sure about the two part molds but I supply quite a few tournament anglers with the flat beaver style besides myself and they love the flat side compared to the original, as Jim stated it glides well, and also the original has an indentation on both sides, a hook set or two and there shot, the flat side makes it a little more durable especially flipping in thick grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Nobody has a two part for sale on their site. You have to request a custom mold which will be a hurry up and wait scenario. IF you want 2 part, make it yourself or have somebody make it for you!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmangarvin Posted March 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 thanks for the advice guys its well appreciated. i will go with the flat sided mold since I'm a newbie.i found this web sight a few days ago and have been reading everything i can get my hands on. to put things simple this place is assume because of the guest who use it. by the way any one have a formula for zooms chart. pumpkin dont mind my spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Bassman, Bob said he would make me one, ( two part mold ), I think it might need to injected to fill the tail, will not know until I try it. I asked for him to build it but did not hear back from him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I have the one part mold from LC. It works well, but I do better with tubes and brush hogs. Right now I am trying to combine the head of the beaver and the tail of the brush hog. I will let you know if it works out. Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVaGitzit Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Check out this earlier post about putting baits together by Senkosam, it works well for him and as you can see I inquired about his technique which he gladly shares. http://www.tackleunderground.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Bob has made the 2 part beaver molds before...If you look in the picture area you will see a bait from the 2 part mold. There were issues with parts of the bait not filling even with injection. I have not seen anymore of those injected baits come out so I am guessing the issue was not resolved. Hand pouring those molds might resolve the fill issue and the air will have more time to escape!!! PS I have been hunting a chartreuse pumpkin bait to match that color. Anybody has a bait to send along, please do so and I will share the color formula with you!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Here is that formula for the chartreuse pumpkin...Keep in mind that it will be more transluscent than Zoom's bait due to no salt. If you need the bait to be cloudy, you can add salt but you may have to add more color as well.. 4oz plastic 4 drops pumpkinseed (LC), 7 drops of chartreuse (LC), 2 drops of lime (LC), 1 pinch of medium black flake and 1 smidgen of large black flake... I didn't have any green chartreuse or I might have subbed it in for the lime and chartreuse.... Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I have the one part mold from LC. It works well' date=' but I do better with tubes and brush hogs. Right now I am trying to combine the head of the beaver and the tail of the brush hog. I will let you know if it works out.Cal[/quote'] Here's one you might consider: The Beaver/Brush Hog combo is on this blog page: http://www.zipperworm.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
