saint308 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I need some help. Do any of you know why when I pour my plastic into the mold my glitter is not consistent throughout the stick? I will have a lot of glitter on one side and very little on the other. Also, some ares in the worm are almost void of glitter. When I am pouring, it looks like I have a consistent amount of glitter going into the mold. I am clueless, I have tried hotter, cooler and all points in between. Thanks. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Regardless of whether you're using a pot or pyrex, stir well. Glitter doesn't usually settle regardless of size. Stir in between reheating just in case there is any settling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 who's glitter is it, I have some from one retailer that is almost worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 The glitter is from ozark tackle, which I believe is from Senko Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Regardless of whether you're using a pot or pyrex, stir well. Glitter doesn't usually settle regardless of size. Stir in between reheating just in case there is any settling. My glitter settles every time if I don't stir...pot or pyrex!!! As a matter of fact, don't stir, pour a few cavities and then re-heat for 20 seconds and you will have a few globs of burned flake in the bottom of your cup... You must stir well for consistancy of flake and/or salt. If I am making sticks in a pyrex cup, I stir between EVERY cavity. It takes a bit longer but ensures perfect sticks every time. If I am using my pot, my drill is running the whole time I am pouring and in between when I am de-molding.... Glitter has to settle in plastisol, it is heavier than anything in the plastisol so gravity is going to do its thing .... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Thanks guys, I guess the general consensus is that I am not stirring enough. I will try to stir after every cavity. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 The glitter is from ozark tackle, which I believe is from Senko Sam. Huh??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 The glitter is from ozark tackle, which I believe is from Senko Sam. Huh??? That's what I was thinkin' Frank. To be honest, Senkosam's glitter stays suspended in the plastic better than any I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Come to think of it, I wish my glitter would sink -- that would produce a great laminar effect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Senko sam: I am not complaining about your glitter. I have the same problem with Del's glitter, I am 100% sure it is something I am doing wrong. Please do not take offense to my post stating it is your glitter. I was only answering someone's question. I am going to try to get my camera working, and will post a pic of what I am talking about. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnfool Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 The Ozark Tackle glitter is not from Senko Sam. Stirring is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 My apologies to all about the confusion on who the glitter is from. It is not the glitters fault, it is 100% mine. I will try stirring more frequently. Thanks to all. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I guess people must thinks it's worth it because they keep coming back. I use it all the time and like the way my lures look, plus I can duplicate anyone's color scheme to a T. Offering more colors and sizes, give everyone an opportunity to experiment, copy and honor requests for those that want custom made lures they can't buy anywhere else. It's also nice not paying ridiculous per unit prices and shipping for smaller amounts. As I said before, I like sharing color schemes with fellow lurecrafters and send example baits with orders so people get some ideas of what certain colors look like in colored plastic. I'm more than happy if a new supplier can provide us with good product, low per unit prices and shipping, plus good service. It's a great hobby if you can afford the start-up costs. (No problem Saint. Good question/ interesting problem. Hope you get good results from stirring, but note how much is coming over the pyrex lip when pouring. It should be a uniform amount and stay suspended in the quickly cooling plastic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderbasser Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I have never tried senkosams glitter, but have tried Del's, M-F's, and LC. The biggest problem I have had is not keeping it from settling in the cup, but setteling in the plastic after the pour. The problem is especialy bad in one-piece molds that are large and or made of resin or plaster. The only solution to that is cooler plastic, but some molds are awfully hard to pour at a lower temp. Also, if you place your aluminum molds on top of another aluminum mold or on a cookie rack they will cool a little faster and help allieviate the problem. The .015 doesn't settle out nearly as bad as the .035 though. Is this not an issue with Senkosam's glitter? If not, I may have to switch brands. TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 SenkoSam, Are you offering discounts on 1 pound and 5 pound quantities, yet? I love your flake, but can't afford to mass produce at those prices... They are great prices for 1 or 2 ounces of this and that, but not in bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 If your flake is settling in your molds when you pour, then I would guess your plastic must be extremely hot. Even when I pour a mold like a trick worm where the mold is not very deep, the flake is dispersed well and not all accumulated on the bottom of the mold. I am wondering if the heat of the plastic AND the rate of the plastic going into the mold are the variables here. I.e. If you pour a slow stream, I have noticed the flake does not suspend in the bait as well as if I really pour it in fast. Again, flake is heavier (or maybe has a higher specific gravity) than everything in the plastisol so it will sink given enough time. The hotter the plastic, the slower the cool time...the longer time the flake has to fall to the bottom or side. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 3lbs and over, free shipping. I do this only because of low demand and to get guys started who mostly want small amounts of various colors and sizes. You already know how expensive 2oz can cost through M-F (plus s/h) and it adds up. I like helping fellow lurecrafters and enjoy the sharing of info on this site (which is one of the reasons I wrote the tutorial on mold making) and the fact that all of us are specialists in a subspecialty of fishing. Best go to M-F, Del, LC and Ozark for the best per unit cost, for larger quantities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TikiJoe Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Dont, worry, I will be ordering some glitter and sugar flake from you soon... I am just getting started in this whole idea of lure making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
