cadman Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Does anyone have a chart or knows where I can find a chart that compares identicle hooks from different manufacturers. For example. I know that a Eagle Claw 570 hook, is similar to a Mustad 32756, Matzuo 9014, etc. This would make it easier to compare different hook manufacturers to alike hooks, then to constantly go to the catalogs. Kind of a Quick Reference Chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickerel Pete Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cadman: It sure would make life a lot easier if such a chart was available. Never been able to find a comparison chart. Garry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee jigger Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Ooooh,Oooooh,if you find one let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 http://www.mustad.no/products/index_hooks.php This is a link for the Mustad web page. If you click on the hooks you are looking for, like Ultrapoint, then click on the hook number, that will take you to the hook. Then read at the bottom, it tells you how to print a page to get an actual print of the hook. This is very helpful to me on sizing hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 You know what guys, I'm going to start one, (if after a week no-one responds to this post with an answer) and post it for every one to see. My intent is to get all the info together and do this. As I complie the info (it may take several months or so), I will let everyone see it, and hopefully comment on it, and correct any mis-information from your past knowledge. This will be a work in progress. If everyone reads it and lets me know of the mistakes, I can correct it, and we will all have a guide on what hooks are identical from what manufacturers. This will help everyone. Moderators, where would be the best place to post this, as it will take awhile to gather data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickerel Pete Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cadman: Sounds like a lot of work. Anything we can do to help let us know. Need samples of what we have?? Garry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Moderators, where would be the best place to post this, as it will take awhile to gather data? Depending on the file type, you can post it here in the forums. we'd be happy to host the chart with credit to those involved. Good luck, need help lemme know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cadman, you will need hook samples because what you read is not always the way it is. I just bought some Mustad widegap hooks size 1/0 and they are almost the exact size as the Matzuo 3/0 (I don't think I spelled that correctly, but; you know what hook I mean) and they both fit the same Do-It molds. Diachi was kind enough to send me some samples of their hooks and none of them fit the Do-It molds. We are just talking simple Eagle Claw type 570 hooks for ball jigs. Good luck with your project and I am sure you would get some samples if you need them. Pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elken Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Barlow's shows wire diameters on 4/0 jig hooks in their catalog. That at least gives you one tool to compare hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cadman, you are taking on a HUGE project. Any help I can lend, like samples or anything, you got it. Just a thought, but I wonder if anyone, like Harry, at Shorty's would have something like this as it would be an invaluable tool for them. And like Pop said, some of the manufacturers didn't follow the rules and make them all the same size. I use a lot of Owner hooks and they are larger than most others in the same size, they can be crossed over but to a different size of a different manufacturer. Good Luck and help is just a post away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 This is my thought for now. All hooks would be for all standard molds. Not molds that someone customized to make hooks work. Lots of guys don't want or like to modify their molds. I don't want to encompass everyone's creativity, if I did that I would die writing and searching for data. All hooks would cover Do-It and other mold companies that are current. I do not intend to do trebles and other hooks that are not used for pouring in lead molds. I don't use them in making lead jigs, so that would narrow it down. Yes I will need samples at some point and time. However, I will look at my stock, and post what I have, so I won't be duplicating things. Let's take this slow and see how it comes along............Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSL Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Cadman...came across this forum while searching for an up to date hook comparison chart. What's the progress on your work on this or was it just too massive a task to complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbor Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I was trying to match up some hooks a while back that were supposidly VMC size 10 and 12 90deg jig hooks and a size 12 aberdine. When I bought the hooks they did not match the samples I was trying to match. My hooks in the jigs were a tad smaller and not identical. I was trying to match custom jigs and spins ice jig hooks. I still have some, the are supposidly bulk vmc, I want to say 9147 off hand, but there were not labeled. Yell if you want some for your chart. 10&12 90deg gold and 10&12 aber/gold Me and small hooks, who would have thought??? Actually the next project is pouring 1/4 cappie spinnerbaits and 1.5oz heavy Sb, im gonna need hooks bigger than 10 and 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogajiga Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Man, thats complicated. Just for 90* Aberdeen you've got xshort, short, regular, and long shanks. Then for wire you've got light, heavy, and 2x. Then you've got the forged versions. And chemically sharpened. Then you've got hard to fit Gamakatsu non-traditional sizing, and now 2x that don't fit stock molds. Where to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapupa Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I ask for Harry at Shorty's a while back and they said he was no longer there. Don't know if he retired or what but he had a vast knowledge of all things pertaining to hooks. He is/will be missed. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I just got the 2008 Bass Pro Shop catalog. There are always the usual 5 or 6 pages of hooks but the pictures always fall far short of being able to do a side-by-side comparison that world include a silhouette of the actual hooks. It would be nice to have an actual website to do a side-by-side comparison on-line. Any ideas on how to put pressure on a Stamin’s or other web retailer to put one together??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 This is an old post, and I know that if at one point, I had everything done, it would be a tremendous help to everyone here. When I finally sat down and looked at the whole concept, it was too enormous to do at the time. It still is. I am still keeping this on the back burner. I love challenges, and this would definitely be one worth while. However at this time, I can not devote all that time to get this done. So currently nothing has been done on this original thread. Sorry guys, but it still gnaws at me, so maybe one day...................Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Cadman:Need samples of what we have?? I'll contribute samples. I've found there are very few 'standardizations' in the fishing industry products. Not only hooks, but line breaking strength varies significantly. When you look at off-the-shelf rods, action and power is meaningless. One's Medium may be another's MH. It would be nice to see the industry move toward standard measurements and metrics, but I dont see it happening anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomisman Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 cadman, Barlows has something like this on their web page of what hooks fit what molds in various brands. I dont know if that is exactly what your looking for or not. http://www.barlowstackle.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=2766&CATID=59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I'll have to dig/find it, but I'm pretty sure one of my wholesale catalogs has just what your looking for. Then again, maybe not lol, Ill have to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Barlows ahead of the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
