BBC Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Does anybody have any tricks for pouring curl tails? I have a few aluminum molds and RTV molds with curl tails and my tails are almost always thicker than I want them to be. How can I fix this??? Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 You want to get your "tail section" a little higher. (much easier with RTV) Put something under the mold on the tail end. Pour the tail first and let it run down into the deeper part of the mold. Once the tail is complete focus only on the body of the grub. With practice you will be able to get the tails thinner than you have been. Note: you will never get the tails to be as thin as an injected bait but you will get very close. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdomina Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Very interesting Nova. So generally you pour your tails and or legs first. I was wondering about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Yes; it allows the extra plastic to run off and into the main body of the bait. Plastic has to heated to the max to work properly(careful not to burn it). Lizards are the hardest due to 4 legs and a tail. It takes some practice but it has to be done smoothly and quickly so you don't wind up with cold cracks. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmer Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 What is an "RTV" mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Silicone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Tilting the mold up a little also helps the plastisol flow from tail to body, and as the mold heat up it will also flow better (esp. with aluminum, although a warm mold slows overall pouring speed.) Nova pointed you in the right direction, as always. Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDC Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Clemmy Why would a warm mold slow the pouring speed? I think I may have experienced this without really realizing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I agree with Nova.The only way I could come up with the thinner tail.The thicker tail really didn't seem to hurt the action as far as the fish were concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Use a piece of "old" plastic from the inside or side of your cup. It is nice and thin and prevents the mold from sliding or moving!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I'm new to this pouring your own baits so this may be a dumb thought, but what if a person was to put something flat, like a small piece of plexy glass across the top of the tail section of the mold only and use something to keep it in place while you over pour the body. Do you think the plastic would run under the glass and fill the curly tail portion of the cavity? Maybe tilt the head portion up a little when you first start pouring. I can take constructive criticism. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I don't think that would work. The air pressure would stop the plastic from flowing into the cavity. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_T Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 If you don't mind the extra work and trimming. You can pour the bait then lay a piece of plex, aluminum or most anything flat. Set it on top of the mold and place a weight on top of it. It is a lot of work but it will get you consistent baits every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Nova, what if a person was to leave a small opening at the very end of the curly tail. When the plastic starts coming out the small air release opening start pouring the rest of the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 That would work to relieve the pressure but I'm still not sure if it would actually pour properly. As I've said before; anything is worth a try. I've come up with some really interesting colors and ways of pouring by trying things. I've also wasted a lot of plastic as well.lol www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 The above pic is of the 5" curly tail I've been pouring. Didn't know the right way to post it or make it bigger. Can someone correct my mistake? Thanks, tad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Another try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Moderators, feel free to delete the 3 previous post, for some reason the pics vanished. Thanks, tad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Tad, email me the pic, I will post it for you. predatorbassbaits@charter.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 OK thanks Jim.....tad:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Here you go Tad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 OK, I went to dig up my metal syringe and decided what the heck I will see if I can modify it, and it worked. I took and drilled out the tip as big as I could then took a separate tip that came with it and shortened it and then JB welded it. It works like a charm, it does get very hot but allot safer then the plastic one, Mine is for animal enemas, and it will suck up 1 cup of plastic, the plastic does not cool as fast in it as well so you have more working time,I just hope the O-ring will hold up. Thanks for bringing this subject up so i was benefited by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...