Hoodaddy Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hey guys just want some opinions...Just got a new motor possibly for my drying wheel. Its a scrunnger motor out used with a CNC lathe..for what I'm not exactly sure , but anyhow it turns my wheel approx. 14 times a minute compared to 6 with the rottiserie motor. Everything I've read six is rule of thumb, what affect will this have on the clear coat ?? Are my feelings about it possibly pushing the clear to one end of the bait ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark berrisford Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 i think at 14rpm you'll find the clear coat would stay as you put it on and not even out,as it wouldn't have time to settle before it's turned round again.i use a 4rpm motor with e-tex and to my mind get a better finish than the 6rpm motor it replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Keep in mind, whatever the RPM of the motor, it is measured at the shaft, the further you attach your lure away from this shaft, the faster the lure moves to keep up with the motor shaft. No, the RPM of the lure remains the same, just the speed of travel increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Coley's right, but for our practical purposes you wont extend the bait from the shaft far enough for centrifugal force to be a factor, especially at low RPM's it might be a factor at 14rpm, but not 4-6rpm. The reasoning behind using a drying wheel is to allow gravity its due time on as much surface area as possible to allow the topcoat to level properly & prevent it from getting a chance to droop or drip. At 14rpm, if your handy enough, you could use 2 gears or pulley/belt to reduce the ratio to 3:1 meaning that the drive shaft rotates 3 times while the driven shaft (wheel) turns only once. That'll give you @ 4.5 rpm. If you could find a pulley to fit your motor shaft with a 1" dia. & use a belt to attach it to a 3" pulley on the driven shaft, you'll be in business if the motor can output the needed torque, which is just as important as RPM. Good luck, let us see it if you get 'er goin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellure Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hoodaddy, you have mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 The Rpms were calibrated at the end of the dowel where the bait is attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 The Rpms were calibrated at the end of the dowel where the bait is attached. Like Coley said, RPM's are the same, regardless of distance from the shaft. I think what he was getting at is with a higher RPM & a bait on a holder, centrifugal force might push the topcoat to the end farthest from the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPala Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Ya, even with same rpm, the furthest point of a lure from center is drawing a bigger circle. Speed = distance traveled in time. So the outer most past will be spinning relatively faster speed, hence more centrifugal force & far enough out, that might swing the epoxy out towards that end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 You could make a simple pulley system yourself, doesn't need to be particularly accurate, at 15rpm it won't need to be balanced. I agree with Bezyb, no time for distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Thanks for your input guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishPork Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 A cheap round knob light dimmer wall switch will let you adjust it to whatever speed you desire up to the max the motor has.I use this to change rpms from jerkbaits to cranks.Gives my longer baits a little more hang time, works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy maker Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I reduced the speed of my motor using a vacuum cleaner belt and a fishing line spool as a pulley. The belt fits in the spool perfectly and with the sides on the spool it can't slip off. mossy maker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted January 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Very inovative ideas guys. If it does'nt work I will probably give one of them a try. I especially like the idea of dialing in what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centigrade Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Anyone have issues with rotisserie motors dropping. Even if I balance mine perfectly the dowel had some play and likes to drop an inch every downward rotation. This is effecting my epoxy greatly. Right now the dowel is mounted in the rotisserie but I do not know what I can do about the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I found that, with my ferris wheel type turner and rotisserie motor (1 rpm) I needed to load it evenly so it would rotate smoothly. If I was turning just one lure, I'd put another lure of the same weight on the opposite side of the wheel for balance. Otherwise, the play in the socket where the shaft entered the motor would allow the shaft to move suddenly. You might try adding tape to the end of your shaft so there is no play where it enters the motor, too. But I found balancing the load was key. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centigrade Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I found that, with my ferris wheel type turner and rotisserie motor (1 rpm) I needed to load it evenly so it would rotate smoothly. If I was turning just one lure, I'd put another lure of the same weight on the opposite side of the wheel for balance. Otherwise, the play in the socket where the shaft entered the motor would allow the shaft to move suddenly. You might try adding tape to the end of your shaft so there is no play where it enters the motor, too. But I found balancing the load was key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centigrade Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 That was my first attempt at a quote sorry. I do understand the weight balance this and it gets tricky the more lures I put on. I don't quite understand the tape on the end of the dowel though. I carved my dowel square and mounted inside the motor so the play is actually where the motor intersects the dowel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogAddict Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Centigrade, I have had that issue as well. I found that it wasn't the fit of the dowel into the square slot but play in the actual motor casing somewhere (maybe a loose fitting of some sort). I have had two cheaper rotisserie motors die on me and I bought a third to replace them (different brand this time) and a fourth as a back up. There has to be a better way but right now I'm still working with the rotisserie motors. I'm contemplating buying a high end disco ball motor. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centigrade Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Did the better unit reduce the issue or no? Im debating buying another motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresque93 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 What are the disco ball motors like? I use a rotisserie motor with the actually rotisserie rack that falls out every ten minutes...well more that it comes out...it doesn't fall. I'm just looking to switch it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centigrade Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I bought a better rotisserie but had to buy the whole kit cost me about 90 bucks. I don't have any other option really I live in the middle of nowwhere Canada. The lures don't drop if I stack one side but it's turning about 2 times per minute, opposed to my cheap rotisserie turning 1 per minute. Is that to fast I wonder for evirotex? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresque93 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I think my rotisserie is faster than that and mine come out fine. Although, I did just have my first problem with Etex, it grew a lump after about an hour on the wheel after I stopped it. I don't think I mixed it properly. How long do you guys leave your lures turning for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 For Etex, 12 hours. It's "set" after 8, but used to let it run overnight anyway. I watched it for the first half hour, so I could see if any problems developed, and then I'd go into the house and check again in the morning, when I'd recoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresque93 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Really...that long eh? I thought it was only like 30 mins or so, then it hardened in 48 hours. Good to know, thanks! Recoat? How many times do you coat? It's pretty thick I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 E tex, for my swimbaits, needed two coats. If you have questions, they have a great technical staff that will answer them. The phone number is on the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
