barry batchelor Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Does any body have any suggestion on how I could get a few bb's inside my wood bodies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I seldom do this because I believe wood baits should usually not have rattles. But there are various ways to do it. Many use a preformed or commercial brass or glass rattle, drilling a hole and epoxying it in. But most rattles are too long to fit a 3/8" wide bass bait and besides, I find the tube/worm rattles are not very loud encased in wood and epoxy. That's the reason they call them "ticker rattles" - you can barely hear them! The method I use (hardwood baits only) is louder but more labor intensive: Drill a hole through the bait large enough to easily accept a 5mm glass bead. Smooth the inside with a Dremel stone. Cut 2 covers about twice the hole's diameter from an aluminum Coke can (plain sissors do nicely). Recess the areas where the covers will fit slightly with a Dremel high speed cutter. Epoxy one cover in place with 5 min epoxy and let it cure. Put in the bead and epoxy the other side. Don't epoxy the bead! When cured, cover the side areas with wood putty and sand smooth. The glass bead hitting the aluminum covers produces more noise than you hear from most wood bait rattles. It also puts out a definite little shock wave you can feel if you rattle the bait while holding the sides. I think that's a good thing. I've tried steel and lead shot but it can unbalance a small bait, so went to glass. It's just as loud, maybe louder. For balsa bass baits, I usually have too much thru wire harness and ballast inside to accomodate a rattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Try going to page 3 of the Hard baits posts. Vodkaman does a fine job on how to make a 5 minute rattle can. This may work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z? Zuanon Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Hi, I'm a brasilian fisherman. You con see how I made a internal rattle im my lures in this topic. http://www.caterva.com.br/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7721 This topic is writing in portuguese, but loking the the pictures you can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Hi, I'm a brasilian fisherman. You con see how I made a internal rattle im my lures in this topic. http://www.caterva.com.br/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7721 This topic is writing in portuguese, but loking the the pictures you can understand. Now that is a slick idea for cutting the grove for the thru wire. Excellent idea and thanks for sharing:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishPork Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Nice stuff!!!! Is there any way to use this fancy computer stuff to translate that site? Looks pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkbait Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I do something similar to the glass bead only I drill a hole lengthways through the bait with 8mm bit and insert a brass tube that is cut to a lenth less than the thickness of the bait. I use hardwood dowell plugs for the sides and sand them flat with the sides of the bait. Using a couple lead shot, they really rattle loud and dont seem to affect the balance a great deal. I use them on my bigger baits mostly. Brass tube can be found at RC model shops in all diameters. A friend and fellow Ky bait builder just drills his ballast weight holes deeper than necessary and adds a few shot before gluing the weight in. It does a good job and no extra steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B BUG Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I do something similar to what BobP does. I drill a 7/32" hole where I plan on placing my dot for a shad imatation. This is best done when the bait is still flat like prior to cutting it out . After the bait is shaped and ready to be foiled, I take .010 brass shim stock and cut out 1/4" discs with a gasket cutter (1/4"). Next I place a drinking straw (7/32") inside the hole. Wack off any excess. Super glue one of the discs (like everyone else) let it dry. I like only one lead #4 or 5 shot placed inside the straw. It seems like anymore then this and the pellets strike oneanother and not the disc. Finally, add the other disc with as little glue as possible and let it set. Now you are ready to finish the bait. As for the dot, I take a roll of black tape that is 2/3 gone, cut it in half then I use a spent 223 casing as a punch to produce a stack of black dots. Just peel and stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 OK , found this rather old thread , thought , I'd add my own style to it . My own rattles are also made of brass tubing 8 X 0,5mm , the difference to the ones previously described(couldn't open that Brazilian site) is , that they don't require extra closure lids on the flanks of the lure , because these lids are part of the tubing , that I achieve by not sawing quite through them , but leaving a ridge about 1/4 to 1/5 of the circumference , that holds the lid in place . Opposite of that ridge I make a cut with pointed shears to separate that portion of tubing and open it up with pliers . After cleaning up the sawchips and filling in two steelballs I'd swage the lids tightly against end of tubing , then cut and grind lid to round shape . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Well , the final touch-up and breaking the edges is done with a fine-grade small file , the rattles should sit snugly in their bores , it's more accurate to furnish these bores on the sawed out lure blank rather than into a ready shaped blank . For final assembly prior to painting push rattle in center of lure , probably secure with a drop of superglue and close holes either with epoxy glue or polyester car putty , after curing grind/file/sand flush to body outline . These rattles generate a gentle , metallic "clic-clic-clic" sound , they are more suited for lures that are rigged with screweyes rather than thru-wired ones . Greetz,diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 In the past I've used glass worm rattles, and the plastic rattles off of Rattle Claws, and they both worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjbass Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 FYI I use rattles in some of my Musky baits and I am very particular in the sound. P&P Magnum Worm Rattles are the loudest and best sound I have found. You can get them on ebay. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikester Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Just thinking out loud after seeing some of the homemade brass rattles, has anyone tried using an empty .22 long rifle casing? Seems like it would help skip a step or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Pikester. Yes, it has been done before, but it is still a goo idea. Here is a link to the discussion. http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/hard-baits/10022-how-make-hollow-body-lure-bead-inside.html There are quite a few discussions on rattles, all worth reading. Check out Cheeseheads glass rattle tutorial. As BobP stated, glass is good because of its resilience, it will give a good 'ping'. You really need to ask the fish which they prefer. When I experimented with rattles, I mounted mine across rather than lengthways, as this is the direction of the movement. This has been mentioned earlier in this thread, also making a kill spot to disguise the construction (I though it was my idea, but someone got there way before me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL Rods Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Nice stuff!!!! Is there any way to use this fancy computer stuff to translate that site? Looks pretty cool. If you have Google toolbar loaded or others on you Internet browser, Right Mouse click on the Page, slide down to Page Info and click on that, then choose Translate page to English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...