Joe S. Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Been making some plaster molds and want to try a swimbait like storms wild eye shad. Has anyone tried and been succesfull at making a plaster mold with a jig head molded in the plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Haven't tried that one Joe; thought about it though. You would have to seal the lead buy coating it with something that won't react to the plastic. If you don't do that the lead will go all funky. You will also have to have some way of supporting the jighead while you pour. Just a few quick thoughts. Good luck and let us know how you make out. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Thanks Nova, That's my dilemma the suspending the jig head part, I guess if I had a two piece mold and some sort of hanging device to hold the eye of the jig head straight and centered in the mold then somehow pour down the hole, hmm.. seems pretty tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 If you are using a 1 piece mold you could make some sort of a rig that would suspend a couple of small alligator clips over the mold. One to grab the eye and the other to grab the point of the hook to hold it in position while you pour. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 thats a big problem on my end also, I was ready to release the swimbait molds and make them so they will hold the leaded hook. in my case I am using drill rods ( pins) but they are 2 peice molds so its much easier. I did a 6 in trout one a while ago playing around, it was a single piece mold. I made a fixture to hold the hooks. you can make the same fixture, but using balsa wood and the coating it with fiberglass.. on the bigger molds its easier as you have the room to pour the baits then drop the fixture over the mold holding the hooks, however on the smaller wildeye type baits you will need to device it in a way the it wont interfer with pouring. I think you can accomplish this via using drill rod but in longer lengths and sitting it on the side of the mold instead of the top ( ie stradling the mold) one drill rod goes through the hook eyelet and the other goes through the hook bend, by the barb. side play can be fixed via using a small oring on the drill rods. you would basically put your weighed hooks on the fixture and use the o-rings to keep the from moving side to side. when I did my first one on the bigger mold I used the alligator clips, they dont work because you will never get the hook into the same position each and every time. one other problem and something you might want to think about is you also need to make the lead mold to hold the weighted hook. cause if your shape and or size or even hook size changes your hook holding fixture will be different. which is kinda a good thing cause then you can add different types of hooks sizes and different weights as well and have a fixure for each. Ive been through the process a million times in the last year, and found the only problem is the hook fixture and type of hooks and weight you use. I thought I had swimbaits all ready , now i have to make the lead mold for the hook too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Wow thanks for all the info. A little more complex than I was hoping it to be. I'll have to see what I can piece together when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 joe its not that complexed, you need to remember I am selling these so I have to make them as fool proof as possible. so I do get a tad carried away. you can use aligator clips and or wire fixture, and just make sure you get it close all the time. but in all honesty i would consider getting some balsa wood, some super glue and some drill rod and make one like that( very cheap and very fast) then if it works coat the balsa wood with epoxy or something. reason I say balsa wood is due to its cheap and very easy to work with plus superglue makes it almost an instant setup., if you dont liek it try it again and again. your out about 10 bucks if it doesnt work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomisman Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'm going to have to work on this. See what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdomina Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 you should consider a design like a megabait LA Slider. search on youtube or extreamlures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator44 Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Both Storm and Tsunami mold lead weighted hooks into their plastic lures so it must be possible. I noticed that the lead was wrapped in holographic foil. Maybe that is the solution, I haven't found any similar foil, but maybe aluminum foil might work. My intended application is salt water stripped bass fishing where I've found the lures with molded in weight and hooks work significantly better than anything else. I suspect that they would also be more effective in freshwater bass fishing than the current solution of exposed hook shanks and weights. I'm new at this and am about to attempt to make some molds but hopefully someone will have some new insight on how to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnie3035 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I made one of a Huddleston shad 2-3 years ago. It took a few trys, but the hook thing isn't really the problem. The problem comes when you pour the plastic over the weighted hook. You either get incomplete pours or dents from over heating the plastic. I vented the mold in several places and tried different types of plastic and never could come up with one I liked. It could probably be done using a hand-injector, but I wasn't really interested in taking it that far.. The mold I made was a simple 2 piece POP mold. If you place it just right on the first half of the mold you can get the hook to hold in place no problem. Making a weighted hook for these can be done faily easy using the clay stuff available from alumilite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) On 2 pc NON INJECTED molds U got a problem. With an open mold you add the weighted hook (Jig or what have you} after you pour and you will need a device such has been described to hold it in place untill the plastic has harden enough to support it .... JSC Edited August 3, 2009 by JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anselmo Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 In Lurecrafts DVD they just suspend the jig within the mold with what looks like straightened out paperclips and just pour liquid plastic over the jig Seems to works ok - nice and easy I'm going to try it myself next time I'm pouring I'll let you know how I get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangeboy79 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Tackleunderground Home - Luremakers Photo Gallery - blackbream i cast a leadhead whit a belly hook hanger and to slots in the mold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...