One Sock Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Anyone making frogs? Ideas for colors? This is all new to me here. I made a few a couple days ago and would like to see what others are making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 nice color. Are you using saltwater plastic or regular soft? Have you seen the action in the water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Supersoft, great action in the water. I do like to trim the flappy feet a bit to look more like the tail on a speedworm or horny toad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkocustom Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Great frogs man!! Is that a mold of your own or did you purchse it from someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Not sure who made it, but a friend of mine sent it to me recently to try out. he sells molds like that on e-bay. It's a nice mold and you can hand pour it and while the frogs come out supersoft. I would suggest adding some salt just to keep them from tearing up during repeated casts. But otherwise, I don't see a downside to them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 They are bobs molds, use regular plastic to pour them or add hardner to your s.s or you will have to be very gentle in throwing them and with retrieve. once a fish hits it and it will be done for as well. Use a hook with a spring keeper for them as well and they will last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkocustom Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm realy into rog baits now after throwing some Zoom Horny Toads. Onesock you have some great looking frogs! I'm going to try and hunt down some frog molds and give it a shot. Thanks for the inspriation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttomray Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Who's Bob And How Can I Buy One Of His Molds? Thanks Ttomray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb220 Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 www.del-mart.com www.bobstackleshack.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttomray Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Can Someone Tell How Good The Action Is On This Frog, The Ones I Buy At The Store Simular To These, Are Very Hard To Get To Work Right. The Feet Look Better On This One? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 ttomray, I was throwing a frog from Bob's mold for the first time over the weekend and it had good action at various speeds (even at a slower speed it was kicking up water). I've never thrown a store bought frog though so I can't compare it to anything else. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 These are better then the ribbits, If pouring your own and buying the molds my experience was bobs are easy to pour and I had tons of trouble with dels, I sold all of dels becasue I was tired of getting one bait out of 20 pours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted July 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I had tons of trouble with dels, I sold all of dels becasue I was tired of getting one bait out of 20 pours. Was that the mold with the horny toad feet? The only thing with bob's frog mold is the fact you have to top it off real good sometimes twice, but for the end result it's well worth it, better than the ribbets without a doubt, heck better than the horny toad due to the fact the horny toad sinks way to fast for my liking, I don't use any hardner in my ss frogs and sometimes one fish will wreck it, but i'd trade a fish for a frog anyday :-) especially if I'm tournament fishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Ya if you have the extra time to wait ask bob to make you the mold with a longer sprue hole, I have the same problem. I hate having to babysit molds and back tracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 These are better then the ribbits, If pouring your own and buying the molds my experience was bobs are easy to pour and I had tons of trouble with dels, I sold all of dels becasue I was tired of getting one bait out of 20 pours. Was that the mold with the horny toad feet?The only thing with bob's frog mold is the fact you have to top it off real good sometimes twice, but for the end result it's well worth it, better than the ribbets without a doubt, heck better than the horny toad due to the fact the horny toad sinks way to fast for my liking, I don't use any hardner in my ss frogs and sometimes one fish will wreck it, but i'd trade a fish for a frog anyday :-) especially if I'm tournament fishing Ya if you have the extra time to wait ask bob to make you the mold with a longer sprue hole, I have the same problem.I hate having to babysit molds and back tracking. Jim, you never had a problem pouring ths mold like you said or at least you didn't tell me. there was a problem in the early version ones were sometimes the feet would have a small little dent in it every once in a while usually when the mold was cold or if the plastic was very thick. I poured them my partners 12 year old son had poured them and still does. but 1 in 20 come on man don't stretch the truth. The newer ones I put a vent in the legs they pour 100% and I havent heard anything stating otherwise I've sold well over 100 of these molds , and in the 4 cavity ones well over 30. some of the guys who had the early version had some problems Like I mentioned above, they sent them back and we fixed them free of charge. The toad mold ( close to the horney toad) you can't pour in one shot its impossible, it was never even designed or mentioned you could. so if your complaining about this one its a mute point and your just complaining to complain again, cause it was never stated you can pour in one shot and never intended to. The buzz frog ( like the ribbit frog)is the one that you can pour in one shot. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Del, Less time on the computer and more time on the CNC and maybe you can make better molds??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hey Del, I am not complaining to complain ( I am not stretching the truth.) ( I also have nothing against you.) I am just telling my experience, I did tell you about it and you wanted pictures, well that is when Bob got his out so I just bought his, I was using your plastic as well, maybe it was just the plastic but I did not have trouble with bobs except for the short sprue hole but that is the size everyone is making so it will be nice to see someone make a longer sprue hole so it saves time on pouring by back tracking. It was the ribbit style. I used your plastic in Bobs mold when I got them and I would get perfect pours and yours I am serious 1 out of 20, I would always come in the house complaining to my wife about it. It would never pour a complete foot, both feet would only pour about 1/2 way. Could it have been the plastic was not hot enough ? maybe, I have lots of trouble pouring even with salt especially.( I pour the frogs without salt ) I do not have this problem with bobs frogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 then I would get reemed cause I wasn't answering emails or the telephone. BTW the cnc is always running and so is my cad-cam program but thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 so you got one with out the holes in the side?, you never sent me the pics either so how could I tell what was up? can't fix a problem if I don't know what it is. btw bobs is a completely different type of frog in the legs, mine are based off the ribbit with flat legs. I made them like this due to thats what my customers wanted. when I find a problem or customers have problems pouring them we try to resolve the issue. the issue can be anywhere from salt, plastic tempature , mold vent holes etc. I never ship out anything I can't pour but due to the above varibles we can't control everything. so when someone has a problem I look into how to fix it. but again if I don't get feed back I don't know how to fix it. your problem could have been resolved very easily by sending me a picture,like I asked but instead I get to read it on the internet 3-6 months later. I have one mold I am working on now that I poured 50 baits with and used them, they poured flawlessly. so I figured it was a done deal and put them online. 2 months later I have one customer who is having a problem pouring them. he sent me some pics. I couldn't duplicate it. then one day a few weeks ago I was pouring some for a tourny walla I can't pour them and its the same mold I used the first time. one of my buddies comes to the shop and pours them just fine and I can't now, I am beating my head against a wall, Called a few of my customers that have them and they have no problems, (one guy told me he gets one bad one out of 10) but I do and so does the org. customer. I have 40 of these molds out. try figuring that one out. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Oh yeah one other thing, when you get into more complexed molds whether it be bob shawn or I, sometimes they don't pour like we want. sure we can make anything and as small as you want , but is it pour able . the alum mold craze is a whole new deal, and using cnc machines allows you to make pretty much anything no matter how small, the problem lies in that some just have to be injected ( thats how most commercial baits are done now anyhow) The beaver type baits are a perfect example. thats an injected bait, it was a nightmare to get made so it would hand pour correctly, too much salt and it wont pour that well, too little salt and people don't like them. another example remember that weird bait a while ago that someone put a video up, someone mentioned that it would be impossible to make? I made it and it pours ok however you have to make three pours from three spots( yes the mold is all closed) look identicle to the real thing too. the reason you don't see it online is because it will be a problem someone will ultimately complain cause they have to pour in three holes. same goes for the javalon swim bait made in japan, that mold is pretty nice but there are steps you need to do to make it pour correctly, some guys don't mind and some guys do, Bob Shawn and I have molds that are pretty cool but you won't see them cause they are hard to pour. hope that made sence Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theflyingplatypus Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just so you know del I think you make the best molds for the hand pourer on the market today. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie525 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 i had a nice fish bust a horny toad on guntersville, yellow and black swirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Thanks but I didn't mean or to imply that in any way shape or form. The point I was trying to make was any machinist who knows how to run 3d work can make anything no matter how small or big. the problem is that just because we can make it doesn't mean it will pour. sometimes they might be tricky to pour and need to be done a certain process etc. I happen to get a lot of guys that want to copy baits just like they are made commercially, they use them for both commercial and private use. sometimes you have to pour a certain way in order to get it to work correctly. open face molds aka one piece molds were never a problem and are pretty much simple. 2 piece molds is were it starts to get tricky for hand pour guys, has a lot to do with the thickness of plastic, how much glitter salt or not, pour from a pan or a pot, air temps, and the list goes on. the bad part is everyone pours different with different stuff. The only real constant is the molds they don't change from one to another. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomisman Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I've used dels frog that is a horny toad look alike. Poured great but "I" was to lazy to pour the feet, close the mold and pour the rest. This is a mold I started with too. Probably wasnt one I should have. Especially for me. I shake and rattle like a ford truck. So I had alot of trimming to do on the feet. Now since I'm more experienced I would probably have alot better results. BTW Del, the previous post about your molds is just goofy. You make great molds. I've got a few of them. Bob makes a great one too. Got a few of those. On topping off, I've always had to top off molds a couple times. Doesnt matter if its an aluminum or pop mold. The plastic just shrinks as it cools. When I make a POP mold I've been putting a big resevoir on top instead of a little pour hole. of the mold because of this. Its handy little trick. The beaver mold I made I did the same and also put a big pour hole in it. Havent had a mispour yet even with a senko formula. I did widen the flappy arms on the side some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
