LedHed Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Anyone have a smelt green formula for saltwater swimbaits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 What mold are you using for the smelt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted April 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Will be pouring LC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Hi LedHed, Cant really advise re colour as I am a total novice at this point and havnt even poured my first bait yet. Just getting my first molds and supplies so will be pouring shortly. Will have a look through the LC catalog locate the molds and may be able to suggest something perhaps which you can either look at or reject. More interested as you progress at looking at what you are doing and comparing notes as you seem to be into saltwater fish which is by far my primary interest. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Those all look like good sized molds (from 3 to 4") so should work well. I just quickly googled and saw this: Titre du document / Document title Pigmentation of cultured sweet smelt fed diets supplemented with a blue-green Alga Spirulina maxima I also saw this: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/100-199/nb105.htmhttp://www.gma.org/fogm/Menidia_menidia.htm The astonishing history of the Atlantic smelt in Lake Michigan illustrates what may happen when any kind of animal is transplanted into a new location The smelt, a small slender silver-and-green fish related to the salmon, normally lives in the ocean and travels up streams to spawn. Centuries ago, perhaps, some of them became trapped in inland lakes along our North Atlantic coast and developed a race adapted to year-round life in fresh water becoming the most important item of food for the land-locked salmon. And this: http://www.gma.org/fogm/Menidia_menidia.htm Color— Translucent bottle green above, with top of head, nose, and chin dusky. The upper parts of the sides are thickly speckled with dark brown, and there is a silver band outlined above by a narrow black streak, running along each side from close behind the pectoral fin to the base of the caudal fin. The belly is white. From all of this it is easy to surmise and if it was me provided there are no massive colour changes from Atlantic to Pacific Smelt I would tend to run with a teal (blue green) to bottle green as the primary colour with touches of white brown and silver. Failing this just run with the colour scheme above which is an excellent colour desription for Silverside Menidia menidia or Green Smelt. If that dont work then your SPs aint working I would imagine and I cant see why they shouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 David Excellent info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 No probs, To take out you have to put in and very shortly when I start pouring myself I am sure I will have some problems which people here can quickly help me with. One thing you might want to look at is Randy Burton of Catch Me A Hawg Pours recently sent me down some skirts to try (which I am keen to try as we dont use skirts here) and included some bottle green and black Jerk Shads to try which I am itching to do. Although he is not a saltwater fisherman I think he guessed just right and they will work just spot on. I suggest you see if you can get 2 or 3 or a color pic off him and see if you can duplicate that at the same time. I will be interested to see how you get on regardless of the final colours selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 LedHed, You might also like to look at Big Hammers site as I see they have a smelt shown at the bottom of the page.#106 See: http://www.swimbait.com/hammer.htm They are using an aquamarine colour, green , and maybe silver and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 David Got some results from a similar post by ssrmr2 - not sure if you have seen it. Chris was kind enough to share his expertise and there is a baseline to try for a color formula. Now to get busy................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Yeah spotted it and saw Chris gave you the benefit of his knowledge. Am impressed by both his and Nil's work. Both of them do some very nice stuff. Its like all the guys who have added their knowledge to the Colour Formulas they have certainly saved all of us and one another hours and hours of work plus given a basis at times to start from. I have only got one complaint I just have to keep working out and adding more colours to my list. Just imagine if scientists could prove to me in black and white that fish dont see colours and its all irelevant boy would I be brassed off. Dont think there is much chance of that though somehow. Good luck with your efforts and keep me posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Yeah spotted it and saw Chris gave you the benefit of his knowledge. Am impressed by both his and Nil's work. Both of them do some very nice stuff. Its like all the guys who have added their knowledge to the Colour Formulas they have certainly saved all of us and one another hours and hours of work plus given a basis at times to start from. I have only got one complaint I just have to keep working out and adding more colours to my list. Just imagine if scientists could prove to me in black and white that fish dont see colours and its all irelevant boy would I be brassed off. Dont think there is much chance of that though somehow. Good luck with your efforts and keep me posted. Don't say that David. Bass know the difference in every color and every glitter. At least that's what I tell my customers. I have a buddy who is an awesome fisherman. According to him, he fishes 2 colors when it comes to soft plastics......."something dark" and "something light". It works for him because I've seen some of the sacks he's weighed in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I dont for a minute believe lack of colour dosnt matter. I have seen people hundreds of times time and time again who are not getting a bite change colours and within a couple of minutes they have caught a fish. Mind you there are guys who are just better fishermen and catch fish regardless. I fish with a Pacific Island guy who was bought up with fishing from a really young age lives for fishing is just a natural and regularly kicks my butt when we go out fishing. The good thing is once he catches his limit when we havnt been out for a while he helps me catch mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
