bassmaster1974 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I have been using assorted netting for scales.I like the effect,but it is hard to get any kind of precision while painting with a net stretched around the bait.I have found a few sites that sell mesh "scale" masking and I was wondering if any of you guys have used it or have any advice on something else that I can adhere to the bait without having to wrap it in a net.Also wondering how you make a stencil for craw patterns?I have made a few using shaped edges of paper/cardboard,but most of the ones I see look like they were applied with a stencil.Any advice is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 we use very thin lexan for templates to shoot thru.. the templates last for years with a little clean up occasionally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster1974 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 How this is thin?I have tried some 1/4" and it would not get close to the bait because of the contour of the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmett Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 At the hobby shopes or WalMart crafts section, you can get blank stencils. A tough plastic that works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster1974 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I guess what I am having trouble with is getting the stiffer plastic materials to contour on the sides of the bait.I spray a gill pattern with a thin metal sheet and I dont really have to contour that much but I do get overspray sometimes.I saw a web site once a few years ago that showed how to make a stencil out of some thin metal.They wrapped a bait,contoured it to the bait and cut down the middle of the back.Then they had 2 shells that fit the same kind of crank perfect.Lay one side,spray and then the other. So you are just cutting out a stencil from the blank sheets at walmart and holding it up to the side and spraying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 bassmaster1974 vbmenu_register("postmenu_63778", true); So you are just cutting out a stencil from the blank sheets at walmart and holding it up to the side and spraying? That works well for me. Wear a disposable glove on your stencil holding hand. Or you can use hemostats as a lure holder and use small spring clamps to hold your stencil next to your lure. Naturally the further your stencil is from your lure, the softer the edges of your pattern will be and vice-versa. I prefer a slightly softer edge for most of my patterns than holding the stencil flush against the lure will give. I've used these plastic stencils for years with Createx and Parma paints--just wipe them with a damp rag or paper towell after spraying to restore their transparency & and /or to flip over for the next spraying. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 I have just got into stenciling, saves heaps of time and beats the old "shaky hand" look. I picked up on someones suggestion of using old Blister pack plastic sheet, works well. I think you can buy hot stencil irons there, but I have a small soldering iron, so just wrapped a piece of thin wire around it (spring or stainless wire is best) and turned it on and stenciled away. Want a wider line pattern- use thicker wire!! Because they are hand "cut" , you get a more realistic pattern without sharp difined edges. After burning your patern you may have to sand it on a flat plate to knock off the beads of plastic around the edges , works well so far. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 you can also buy a hair comb . heat the tines on the comb to bend. spray thru for a fire tiger pattern. works great.. use your imagination. you will be surprised at the results. thats whats so neat about this site. ideas and energy is boundless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster1974 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thank you a lot for the great advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassin79 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 One more, I use a water filter wrench and attach the stencil or netting to. Attach it with glue or tape, don't make it real tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gldnbear93 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 an embroidery hoop makes a good mesh/scale netting holder ($1 at the craft store). You can get these in almost any size and usually round and oval shapes are available. I use a pair of clamps to hold the hoop steady and hold the bait right up to the mesh, spray, flip, spray, done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver466 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 take your bait and cover it with vasoline, then cut thin strips of paper. dip them in wallpaper paste. lay them on the bait till you get the desired pattern. let dry fliover and do the other side. has worked for me very well. after it gets a little paint on it. it gets very durable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 As for cutting/burning your own stencils you can purchase Frisket material at Michaels Crafts. Frisket is a thin tough clear plastic sheeting that has a tacky side on it (make sure your paint is set ). To even further reduce the tackiness rub it across your pant leg a couple of times. It is very flexible and works for us in a lot of applications. As for scales simple netting on a embroidery hoop works but I have seen posted on here of a homemade box with the netting loosely streched loosely over the top that seems to give you almost an extra hand ??? (poor expl.) Not sure who posted it. I believe FF or Husky also apply netting to thier baits and foil over them and burnish, giving the optimum scale effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 apb posted the open-ended box--3 sides rigid, with the 4th side made of scale netting loose enough to wrap the corners of the lure when inserted and lifted against the netting, while he sprays it with the other hand--brilliant inside the box thinking. When he took about 2 seconds to demonstrate its use to me this, I realized that it was the singlemost efficient lure painting accessory I'd ever seen. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I don't know if this is what Hoodaddy was refering to, but this is the jig I use. Here is a jig I made and had good success with. I don't have a pic of the gill template, but you should be able to get an idea as to how it works. The mesh is replaced with a piece of plastic from a paper binder sleve. The gills or whatever else you want to paint is cut into the plastic. The plastic has a little slack, so when the top of the jig is down, the plastic wraps around the bait just enough to create a seal. Mark the location of each bait, keep it in the same spot for each bait of the same type and paint.The plastic cleans up well and can be used over and over. The bait is attached to a dowl and nail holder and slides into a hole in the side of the jig allowing two hands free for painting. Attached Imagespics 001.jpg (65.1 KB, 75 views)pics 002.jpg (80.0 KB, 63 views) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Yes, The box I was refering to was the one posted by APB a while back...Thanks Cuz. Could'nt remember who posted it....Part timers disease you know !!! Joe, your box is on the same line as APB's and works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Joe, Very nice! Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yes, The box I was refering to was the one posted by APB a while back...Thanks Cuz. Could'nt remember who posted it....Part timers disease you know !!!No problem cuz...I know sometimes we have to pool our resouces to come up with one complete thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Another thing i've heard that some do (although I haven't tried it myself) is using heatshrink tubing, forming it to your bait, drawing the design, then split the tubing down the middle making a clamshell. You then cut out the design to create a custom molded stencil. I think it was Hughsey or Skeeter who came up with this, it might be in the archives or old TM site... Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernel Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 This should be the link to the box and "netting" pic http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1891&d=1170204382 Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
