mitcheal Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Recently while watching the DIY series on auto repair, I saw a guy powder painting engine parts with some type of spray gun. After applying the powdered paint he baked the parts in an oven (kitchen type) at 400 degrees F for about 15 minutes. They came out beautiful. I know many powder paint users are trying to perfect containers that keep the powder paint loose prior to applying. Perhaps this gun might be another way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I saw a powder paint gun in the Stamina catalog. I still dip. Mr B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Just guessing, but I would think the gun was an electrostatic gun. The electrical charge attracts the paint to the part without the need to preheat the part being painted, then baking it completes the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I use a fluid bed, for all my single and base colors, and then I put on all my other colors with a paint brush by tapping the paint on the jig. I have just submitted a tutorial to TU, on how to put on 4 or more colors on a jig. It will be out in several weeks hopefully. I hope you all enjoy. Credit is due to George Reeves for putting me up to the challenge, and then giving me the idea to submit the work for everyone's use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Cadman, look forward to seeing the tutorial. We have shot a video of powder painting jigs and spoons with the fluid bed and applying multiple colors. It is still at the post production office and we are trying to get them to finish it. Hopefully we will have it on our site soon. We have also tried the powder paint spray gun. They problem with that is you get alot of over spray. Now you can spray into a container and reuse it, but that is just more of a hassle. Another issue we had is uneveness of the coverage. Some spinner blades came out with thick coverage and others pretty thin, ans some with bare spots that just would not cover. Pretty hard to get a good even coverage. We use the fluid bed to powder paint all our jigs. For the spinner blades that we use for harnesses that don't get beat up like jigs, we spray a vinyl paint that is very durable. Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee jigger Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Was kicking around the PSG but have heard of a lot of negatives. Will invest in a fluid bed in the future. Cadman,cant wait for the tutorial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavycover Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I have the powder sprayer from CSI and I'm not very impressed. It is very difficult to keep a steady flow of powder coming out of the nozel. I have also put my fluid bed away and simply shake the powder now and then to keep it light. The fluid bed is ok I guess for some colors but doesn't work well with the "heavier" (more dense) colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I, hate to hear about our members that invested money in a powder spray gun, and unfortunately it not being all it's cracked up to be. I can only tell you what I know about them from personal experience. Our company powder paints all of our large sheet metal cabinets, and other parts. The system is electrostatic. What this is , is there is a small electrical current that goes through the raw part. When the powder gun sprays the powder, the electrical current draws the powder to the part. Then the powder is baked on for hardness. As far as quality on this type of operation, it is some of the best I've seen. However, my personal opinion is that for the small parts we do, I don't believe it's practical, based on the things I've heard from other members. Also to keep it affordable for guys like you and me, maybe the quality is not there like in the big systems. #1, I'm sure there is some powder waste. #2 the cost of the system, to get started, #3 the quality of the finished product. I know all this is water under the bridge, but it's nice to have guys post info like this, so others can make a logical choice on all the options available, good and bad. Thanks for your input heavycover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee jigger Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 My advice to those who bought the PSG is to call CSI and voice your concern. I have called them in the past on a couple issues and they have been more than helpful. If its a piece of crap,let them know. Who knows,they might be reading this thread as we speak,after all we are the guys that buy their products. Hey heavycover,love your website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavycover Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 cadman, there is a fine line on practicality here. I have seen the type sprayer you are talking about in your shop(I think) on American Chopper. That thing was awsome and it did use electrical current as an attractor. The job was flawless. But it would have blown my spinnerbait blades across the room and I'd waste too much paint. It would only be practical for blades if you could make a rig that would hold alot of blades and you could easily collect the overrun to use again. Also what you brought up is the cost. I'm sure those big guns are not cheap. yankee, thanks for the compliment on my site. I have spoken to CSI before and they are great people. I'm sure they would do me right if I called, but truthfully, I halfway knew what I was getting into and gambled. I still use the gun every now and then to add a little color to the bottom my heads. I have always dipped my heads right into the 2oz bottles and just refill them when needed. I have been doing this a while and can get alot done quickly. My biggest problem was blades which is why I tried the gun. My solution was to switch from a torch to a heat gun when painting blades. You can not get a consistent temp with a torch and that is the key. I make sure the powder stays loose by shaking it periodically. I hold the blade at the hole with a small pair of needle nose, heat with the gun, and dip it into the powder. Very simple and quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I bought that powder gun as well, the only thing it is good for for me is spraying glitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Mike Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 heavycover, Can you elaborate on the heat gun?? Your right the torch method is inconsistant atleast for me it is. A link would be nice? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 A heat gun can be found in the paint striping sect. in a hardware store. The place I found mine is at the craft store it is small and perfect size. Its just like a hair dryer but alot higher temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdy_78 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Dear Cadman, I from Russia. I have read on site Ohio Game Fishing Community that you can send by e-mail drawings for manufacturing Fluid Bed. Please, send me drawings on zdy_78@mail.ru. At us in Russia much that is in the USA isn't on sale. I would like to make much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
