empire247 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 im thinking of getting a presto pot to pour. right now i use a microwave but i want to pour more volume. my questions are 1. how long does it take for the plastic to heat up to pouring temp in a pot from room temp? 2. once the plastic is up to pouring temp how long can it hold at the temp without the color fading? if it even does .(refering to color fading with reheating in a microwave) 3. has anyone had problems with air bubbles when adding a motor to stir the plastic? (from my search im guessing stiring at between 60 and 90rpm) thanks, brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnfool Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 im thinking of getting a presto pot to pour. right now i use a microwave but i want to pour more volume. my questions are1. how long does it take for the plastic to heat up to pouring temp in a pot from room temp? 2. once the plastic is up to pouring temp how long can it hold at the temp without the color fading? if it even does .(refering to color fading with reheating in a microwave) 3. has anyone had problems with air bubbles when adding a motor to stir the plastic? (from my search im guessing stiring at between 60 and 90rpm) thanks, brett I heat 1 quart of plastic at a time and it takes about 15 minutes to come up to 325 degrees. I pour the quart in about one hour with no change in color. Since the pot pours from the bottom and any bubbles would be on the top, air bubbles (if any) aren't a problem. I have my pot on a drill press ($99.00 at Lowe's) turning a 3" diameter paint mixer a 500 RPM. I crank out between 500 and 600 stick baits a day with this system. The plastic remaining in the bottom can be peeled out after cooling, cut up and put back into the next batch of baits that color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I'm pouring large swim bait, I am using 2 colors but i really should be pouring 3 different colors.I was wondering if anyone has a more economical way of stirring the plastic other than having to buy a drill and press for each pot 150.00 for the pots and 300.00 for the drill and press. thats a large chunk. I could hire someone to stir the plastic for that price Any Ideas Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Try and find a DC motor around 96rpm and a speed control, with speed control you can get a higher RPM motor, I do not know how low of a RPM motor you can go tto, I tried a 56RPM and it was too slow, Make a mount and stir paddle and coupling and you can possibly do this for under $100 depnding on the cost off E-bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Jim, is that 9600 RPM or just 96 RPM bassnfool 500 RPM sounds a little high are you sure Thank You Gentlemen Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnfool Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Pete: 500 RPM is correct for a 3" paint mixer. I'm sure that the mixer Jim made is much larger in diameter, hence the slower RPM. I also make a cardboard "lid" with a slot cut to the center to avoid splashing. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Right 96 RPM, ( This is the RPM motor that is on Lure Crafts pressure pot) I have a paddle that goes across the bottom of the pot, Bassnfool is using a much smaller paddle but I tried that route like he is doing and I got major bubbles but I used a 1 1/4" wood boring bit with the tip ground off. here is a link so you can see specs of the motor I put on my pressure pot, it is 139RPM and is controlled with a speed control, 139 RPM is too fast. But this link will give you something to work from. http://www.bodine-electric.com/Asp/ProductModel.asp?Context=13&Name=24A-Z%20Series%20Parallel%20Shaft%20DC%20Gearmotor&Model=0159&Sort=11207 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Also remember that the bigger or smaller your paddle is the faster or slower you will need the RPM of the motor. As you increase the size of the paddles the rpm may be to fast. and like wise of going smaller the rpms might be too slow. A perfect example is a bicycle tire, spin it and watched the outside, then look at the center, you will see the center is not moving near as fast as the outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Good point Del. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I only know this cause I had CNC lathes and ran them with up to 40" chucks. 20 rpm was flat out hauling butt on a 40" part. BTW Right at the very center the rpm is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Thanks guys, I cant wait to start some serious pouring. I think I need to figure out a cheaper way to keep my plastic mixed.I do love the idea of the presto pot. If I was to stir by hand,pouring plastic in a white color. How often should i stir? to keep the color pure thanks Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 unless your plastic is mixed constantly you will get the risk of burning it. or you can cook it and keep it in a heated oven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 What is the correct model of Presto pot you are using? Is that the Kitchen Kettle Multi Cooker? Also has anyone used one of their bigger canner models? These certainly look like good solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 What is the correct model of Presto pot you are using? Is that the Kitchen Kettle Multi Cooker? Also has anyone used one of their bigger canner models? These certainly look like good solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I think its there deep fryer model http://www.ozarktackle.com/pouringpot.html Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks Pete, Yeah I think its Model 06003 or 06000. I dont think there is much difference between them as you dont normally use the lid although I may. I think the 06003 is the glass lid one and the 06000 is the metal one. Looking at getting some down and looking to see if someone who sells them in L A will deliver them to my freight peoples Agents there. I think they are actually made in China arnt they? The main thing is reasonably accurate temperature control. Anyone had any problems with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I've only heard great things about them. The only problem is you must keep the plastic constantly stirred. I'm thinking of using a drill press from harbor freight for 70.00 and buying lure craft 5 gallon pail stirring paddle. Good Luck Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 You can get a presto pot from target, Wal-mart, eBay, etc. Also, if you don't want to pour such a high quantity check out the fry daddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ryan, Thanks. As I have to airfreight them I will probably bring several down. Will need to find an outfit that will pack them and send them to my freight agents Agents in Los Angeles so they can just be put on a plane. The basic air freight bill charges are pretty much the same for 6 as 1 and all I will have on top is the extra kg weight rate. Pete yeah I suppose the drill press is not a bad idea. You could probably use a fairly simple and cheap 12 v motor and run it off a plug in power pack if it will allow you to draw sufficient power. Advantages either way I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I just got my pot form ozark tackle. I am in the process of getting a drill press and paddle. I think I am going to go with the $99 model from lowes. That way if all else fails I still have a drill press. I have been trying to pour with the pot without a motor. That is quite difficult. I can tell that once I get my stirrer and new molds, I will be able to pop trick worms out like nothing. I am quite stoked about this. What used to take me 3 days will now take 1 hour. I will post picks once it is done, you guys do the same. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printertom Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 saint save your money a drill press sucks i waste the time a money on that deal you can't slow it down if you us three inch paddle your going to be stirring by hand a lot the salt still settle to the bottom out on the sides and you get a ton of air bubble and splashing go to sears buy a turn your drill into a drill press rig 40$ then buy cheap drill 30$ buy a router speed control25$ paint mixer with the fan paddle on them a 2 inch piece of alum flat stock rip all the fans off the mixer excpect for the four holding the two inch alum stock drill 4 half inch holes in the stock also use metal screws throw the fans in the flat stock tho hold it good i a tight fit anyway but the srcrews help and also the big one is don't ever try to turn the drill off on the router speed control you'll miss the off and go to full use the trigger on the drill i burn't my right arm really bad i mean really bad on the deal i hung the speed control on the wall and i rarely ever touch it now it took about two month to heal up from that little lesson and my arm is scared badly but i don't mind it keep people around here from trying to make there own baits i show my arm and say you better be careful. also like the other guy i us a sheet of half inch plywood with a slot in it to cover the pot to help from making my left arm look like my right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Where did you get the fan paddle paint mixer for your setup? Im a little confused paint mixer with the fan paddle on them a 2 inch piece of alum flat stock rip all the fans off the mixer excpect for the four holding the two inch alum stock drill 4 half inch holes in the stock also use metal screws throw the fans in the flat stock tho hold it good i a tight fit anyway but the srcrews help For some reason I cant picture what you were trying to say Do you have a picture of the fix?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printertom Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 sorry rocky i'm been trying to work out the pic thing for a while hopefully i can get some on here soon it a paint mixer at the home depot that has like 12 fans on the top and 12 on the bottom half they call it twister or something like that look like a two big circles with the fans running vertical between the circle im not a very good writer or speller so the pic thing i half to get working it is really a good system except it is very dangerous if you don't make a lid and hang the speed control on the wall were you can't bump it. i have been use the system since jan. and have burn the robyi drill up or had any mixing prolbem yet it give you much speed range you pretty much run the control between 0 and 1 much higher than that is risky at 0 it proably 65 to 75 rpm that fast enough if your paddle is the width of the pot and two inch high and make sure you drill the hole in it there a post some were in here were del talk about the hole and it make all the differnce for my pot it keep the glitter up a lot better with the holes and the salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Just picked up my presto pot,now its time to modify her to pour some plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Found a cheap router speed control http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=43060 printertom could you use a router speed control on a drill press Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
