D.J. Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I was on Del's site and was directed to a guy that has one of his "Thing" molds. http://www.vendettalures.com It looks like he is claiming they are yamamoto products! Am I crazy or is he actually calling his hand pour stuff, a senko, swimming senko, sweet beaver and flappin hog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass4cache Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yikes! Thats just asking for trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hopefully the owner of that site just doesn't know and sees this post and asks. He is asking for trouble, that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie525 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 he might be reselling them but if not hes screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximusgunn Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I do believe those are the real senkos and sweet beavers he also sells the real swimming senko I think he sells those and some of his own stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm not sure, because he offers everything in different scents. Unless he adds scent to the bags of Yamamoto. Plus he offers it in 25 and 50 packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 plus he says they are hand poured and his prices are so low. But, hey, who knows, maybe they are the real thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 The only place I see the words hand poured in the flappin hog description on the page that opens when you click the link. He describes the baits as Gary Yamamoto's and not "Our Senko" so it seems he is selling the Yamamoto product. But the flappin hog looks like one from Dels mold. It is not the original or the new design and how could he afford to sell Yamamoto products so cheaply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Another thing is his colors that are offered. They don't match Yamamoto's or Reaction Innovations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 The flappin hog is now available. This bait is similar to the Yamamoto Flappin Hog. This is the description He is also offering a swimming senko aluminum mold for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 He changed all of his names and descriptions today. That was a wise move I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 That settles the question about whether or not he is making them. Does anyone see the words hand poured on the site? 152nd - where did you see a mold for sale? When I click on aluminum worm molds, I get a message that says there are no products to list in this caterory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 That settles the question about whether or not he is making them. Does anyone see the words hand poured on the site? 152nd - where did you see a mold for sale? When I click on aluminum worm molds, I get a message that says there are no products to list in this caterory. He must have taken it down. I do see his site was changed. I'll see if I can find the picture later in my cache. It was advertised as a "hinged mold" "no more lost wingnuts" There wasn't any price but it was an aluminum mold of the senko swimbait. It looked looked. I'm not trying to condemn anybody by any means as I have made my fair share (and still do so) of mistakes. He does have stuff up on e-bay and IS advertising items as Yamamoto and also states they are hand poured. http://cgi.#########/25-Yamamoto-Flappin-Hog-SENKO-RARE-WATERMELON-RED_W0QQitemZ300132784932QQihZ020QQcategoryZ31691QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnie3035 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 So it is cool to copy someone elses bait and sell them, so long as you don't call them the orginal name? I mean I've looked at some individual websites [advertised here] and many are making molds of someones elses bait and reselling them. I'm familar with the patent thing, but I don't fully understand the copyright stuff..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Gunnie, So long as a bait is not patented (and VERY few are) and you are not calling it a name that could be confused with the original nor are you claiming it is the original, you are perfectly fine. It happens in the fishing industry ALL THE TIME. You see this typically with the Senko knockoffs. You are fine to copy it (no patent) and to name it "Fred's stick bait". You are probably going to get in trouble calling it a Senko or even a Senco. When you copy a bait and call it the same thing as the original, or something so close that it could be mistaken for the original, that is illegal because of trademark protection. You can't sell your stick bait as a Senko, Senco, Zero, Zeero, Stick-O, Stick-Oh, Tiki Stick, Teeky Stick etc. because other companies have already trademarked those names or they are so close to the original they could be mistake for the original. If you see a "TM" or the "C" with a circle around it by a product name, it is trademarked and off limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
