Xcite Baits Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Does anybody here have Del's trick worm molds? I purchased the 6 1/4" version and never did get a decent pour out of it. I ended up having dents in the egg sack and small dents at the small end of the bait. The dents in the small end are more like chunks missing in the ribbed part. I have tried everything like using salt, using no salt, pouring at different temperatures from 310-340 in 5 degree increments, pouring at different speeds making sure the molds are really hot. Del made me another set of molds with a larger air vent but that didn't help so I sent them back to him. I exchanged them for a larger 7" version but I am getting the same type of pour out of them. Del has really tried to help but I am very frustrated at this point. I am pouring out of a Presto Pot and stirring like crazy. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Lloyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printertom Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 hi Lloyd i have that bait your talking about. i was have the same trouble as you and del call said he sent the wrong mold to me he sent me a new one and it work alright i guess it took two week to get the new one but it pour better than the first one. i can only pour it well on my lee pot and i have to warm the molds i get pretty good success that way. but i hate have to warm mold up frist it slow your production down to a crawl but i bought it for personal use only so it work for me you couldn't own enough them to keep up with zoom 20 for 3 buck i make 20 in half hour. Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass4cache Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I got one too. You have to pour a very thin stream right down the center of the opening. Dont rush it or you get bubbles. I also drilled the opening bigger to make it easier to pour in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 The old version of the trick worm, poured but was tricky ( no pun intened) It poured for us when we took the pics and posted them with no problems. seems simple enough so we put them online for sale. Loyd contacted me and said he was having problems. we worked on that for a while. I was getting no problems and some of the guys that had the mold I contacted were getting no problems. I saw the pics so I know loyd was having some pocket problems. held up production on them for a week or so till I could figure out the problem. opened the worm just a tad bigger ( most people wouldn't notice) poured fast and nice. grabbed a mold loyd sent back pour nice. so now I am like WTF. after doing some playing and pouring many worms I think we figured it out to be gas build-up in the ribs/pockets. Don't forget small sized worms you do have to pour slowly. what happens if your plastic is smoking gas rises this gets caught in the pockets as they can't be vented. with the new changes you shouldnt have any problems, however if you do tip the mold slightly and that should knock out any problems. if you have any air at all in your plastic you might get some problems as well. they been tried in every plastic out there so I know its not a plastic problem. some guys pour them with salt and have no problems, I haven't tried it. out of the 40+ molds we have out have less than 5 with problems, and one of them is me. poured great the first few times but not after that and then poured again with good success. the new version I have no problems at all both in the 6 and 7 inch. whats funny is that I have one customer that has no problems with the 6" (old version) and the exact same problem with the 10" which is really wierd since the 10" is pretty thick. He told me that once he cooled the plastic down and it didn't smoke that he has had no problems on the salt issue, if you have the problem with salt get rid of the salt as it cools it it will shrink and pull teh plastic from the sides cause dimples. If you guys remember correctly this has come up with the stick molds from all who sell them and I am pretty sure that has alot to do with heat. you can do a search on this forum and find the stik problems. I believe they are related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I even have a plaster of paris mold I made that gives the same problem and is well vented. I know this sounds near impossible but my correction to the problem was pouring off center. Tough if you are using plastic with salt as the stream is not as thin. I can get 9 of 10 without a bubble now but you really have to pour steady and have hot plastic. Honestly, I make the 2 piece trick worms for myself and I want a bubble in the tail. The air pocket really keeps the end of the worm up in the fish's face!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I opened a few boxs that were waiting for ups and post office, poured 3 cavities out of 6 different molds. 18 baits. poured them with med plastic. cause thats all I had avail. real quick. poured out of a 1 cup aluminum pouring pan, heated the plastic in the microwave. Plastic was very hot like very war pancake syrup. No problems with cold molds went back and poured some with the molds being hot and had no problem. grabbed one of Loyds molds and poured it had a problem hmmmmm took the first 3 ribs out of the mold making the mold opening bigger and had no problems. I did tilt loyds org. mold before cutting it using a 1/8" allen wrench at one end of the mold, I was able to get 5 good ones out of 5 Loyd I thought we opened the end of those molds up, I just looked in your box and none were opened? I could have sworn we did that. April went to the house real quick to get the camera, when she comes back I will post a few pics. they are very big pics so download time will take a while with a dial up, but the detail should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 heres some pics http://www.del-mart.com/downloads/IMG_0647.JPG http://www.del-mart.com/downloads/IMG_0648.JPG http://www.del-mart.com/downloads/IMG_0649.JPG http://www.del-mart.com/downloads/IMG_0650.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 tried to edit the post, but didn't work, anyway just wanted to add, to see the full size pic in IE internet explorer hold your mouse on the lower right corner, when the expand window comes up click on it. in firefox hold your mouse over the pic, you will get a + sign click your mouse button. these programs normally size the picture to full screen only, you have to do the above to get the full picture size. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcite Baits Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I want to make sure that everyone knows that I am not bashing Del here. Del has been awesome through all of this. Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did try pouring out of my Lee Pot and went straight down the hole. They came out a little better but still had lines running down the worm. Today I am going to try pouring with no salt and at an angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I want to make sure that everyone knows that I am not bashing Del here. Del has been awesome through all of this. Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did try pouring out of my Lee Pot and went straight down the hole. They came out a little better but still had lines running down the worm. Today I am going to try pouring with no salt and at an angle. I think we all know your not bashing anyone, this is one of those pouring problems that might benifit everyone, snap some pics with those nice cameras you have. you said lines? so the dimples are not there now? lines are usually caused by very cold molds of plastic being to cold. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Sounds like a lot of trouble and Like someone said for 3.00 you can buy 20 or so. I made my own version of the trick worms, they fish great and have caught a number of nice fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcite Baits Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Good news is that I figured it out. I was using MF regular before so this morning I went back to the SS and the problem went away. I poured about 100 7" and 10 1/2" and didn't have a problem. The molds had to be very hot but they came out perfect. Maybe I didn't mention it before but I was also having the same problem with the 10 1/2 trick worm. The reason I purchased this mold was that I couldn't find it from any other manufacturer. I would love to pay $3.00 for 20 of these. I agree with you on the smaller version trick mold but I still want my baits to look right. The fish don't care but I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I would not pour too many of the 10 1/2 before you try them. They are going to tear apart where the hook goes in due to the weight and length of the worm. Actually, M-F regular is too soft for them as well. I've been mixing 3 parts regular to 1 part hardener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I am pouring Shawn's mold but I have found that there is a very big difference in my success ratio from using 1.5 TSP and 1 TSP. I would have never thought that 1/2 TSP could make that much difference. I also pour a very thin stream down the center until I know the tail portion is full. Then I speed up a bit. Hope this helps. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
