bassbug Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 4" bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 yup with the cupped tail too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 5" or 6" for me..... Will they pour complete or will you pour and then dip? Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madtrapper Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I would like one as as they are available 4.5 to 6" long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANNDALIZER Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Del, I would like a 5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Some of you guys want to dip them, I forgot to mention( in the first page posts) instead of going to a machine shop and getting an insert made for the tail shape, or wasting lots of time molding one you can very easily do it yourself in a few minutes. if you look at the tail you will see its nothing more than the shape and size of a colorado spinner bait blade, fabricate this into your knife , braze it, solder it or what ever and you have it done. spinner bait blades are pretty darn cheap. You can goto the stanima website and look under colorado blades and see what I am talking about, there are a lot of different sizes as well, so if you want a 6" size tail on a 4" size bait just get the right blade. Most of the blades I have on my spinner baits are cupped, I don't know if stanima's blades are cupped. you also can use a bigger blade so the plastic doesnt form around the blade when dipping. the 4" bass trix bait has a tail of about 1 1/16" the 5" bass trix bait has a tail of about 1 1/8" the 6" bass trix bait has a tail of about 1 3/16" these are close but not dead on as every tail varies on the org. bait about 1/16" of an inch and more due to the bait is dipped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Just ordered my blades last week lol, I did some tubes with the 3D eyes today....very easy to do. I've disected a few of the Basstrix paddletail swimbaits and I can see why they are so expensive (apart from the demand which has inflated the pricing). There are 4 separate layers in most colour schemes and the scale detail is done with a rub on stencil, not sprayed. Also the pearls and irridesent powders used are both brushed/stenciled on as well as mixed in in certain layers. The guy that created these is truly an artist, not many will be able to copy his technique. I think he will be safe for a while as the time and effort to taken to create this bait will have high labour costs. I'm still going to give it a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 What diameter is the hollow tube part of the cavity,on a 4 inch long size bait? Has anyone tried to get a scale pattern by setting the bait on newspaper type print?Not the high clay content of magazine print.I noticed that if I set my tubes on the newspaper it picks up the print after a time.Seems this could be adapted to transfer a scale pattern on to a bait.As far as the multiple dips,it is slower by far,but a lot of my tubes are three,and four colors.At the high cost,making them for your self could be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 What diameter is the hollow tube part of the cavity,on a 4 inch long size bait?Has anyone tried to get a scale pattern by setting the bait on newspaper type print?Not the high clay content of magazine print.I noticed that if I set my tubes on the newspaper it picks up the print after a time.Seems this could be adapted to transfer a scale pattern on to a bait.As far as the multiple dips,it is slower by far,but a lot of my tubes are three,and four colors.At the high cost,making them for your self could be an option. The thickness of a kitchen knife. in all the 4 5 and 6" baits, matter of fact the inside of the bait if you cut it open carfully is pretty close to the same shape as a kitchen knife. for painting stuff your best bet is to talk to the guys on the crankbait forum, they are artist when it comes to painting with detail. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks for the info.Looks like I will have to try to make some.I enjoy the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Good idea Del ! Bojon, I'm experimenting with .064 stainless plate to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I was thinking I might try sueezing a half inch aluminum tube in a vice leaving a small cavity at the top,then grinding the boby to shape with a dremel.Then epoxy puddy a spinner blade for the tail and fill the concave of the Colorado blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Mike I've used the kitchen knife for dipping, had to grind on a few spots to get the tail right. you might want to use Alum if your going to dip it from start to finish, as the stainless will hold the heat in making longer cycle times in between dips, at least the kitchen knife did vs a alum plate. Also this is very important when you cut or grind your knife/plate make sure you polish the edges and have no shart angles, this will make it a lot easier to pull it out when your finished. Remember that hole in the tail is about 10x smaller than the widest part of the body. also found its easier to pull the knife out when your bait is still warm or in Arizona's case set them in the 100º sun for a few mins. the plastic will stretch much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Bojon, make sure you buff the grinding marks out other wise the plastic will stick to the Alum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Looks like I'm fixn to get more gray hair.Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Looks like I'm fixn to get more gray hair.Thanks guys. Yup, its funny till you think about it Del, I used the grinder to form a body last night. That tail section really thins it out, I don't know if Alum would last getting it that thin (still a good idea)...just waiting for my blades now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbass14.3 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Del, How much for the 5" and 6" mold would like to get one. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffG Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Del, are the mold done? when can we see them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Jeff, yes and no, yes meaning they are done, no meaning I'm not 100% happy with it. Thats ok I ran out of stock of the weekend anyhow so I have to order stock tomorrow. Bigbass, I don't mention prices on this website, when they are avail. it will be in the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 on rigging....try a chatterbait head....thats all I will say, experiment with size and color on your own....but trust me on the this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Del what is the word on the tubes? Bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I have been very busy working on the ebook,so I have not tried to dip any paddle tails.I'm thinking that I would coat the aluminum with JB weld,and dip quickly into the plastic,and make probably no less than three dips,so I could have a back color,and the final dip would be after a thin pointed end rod would be inserted(after removing the original dipping mold),I keep thinking of this as a tube,that after the mold is removed I would have a opening at the nose of the bait,which means there would be a fourth dip with the plastic dripping to the nose,and sealing it.Might have to super glue the nose shut before the last step.There is no doubt that the dipping forms would have to have a good coat of a Pam type lube,so that the rods can be stripped.Very labor intensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madtrapper Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 when can we expect to have the 5 mold of a paddle tail delw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Coosa Tackle is now selling a knock off. www.coosatackle.com By next year I'll bet there will be twenty different versions of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Bob's swims are real close to these baits and the action is nearly the same. Only problem with Bob's is that the belly is deep and the hook that is being used with these baits will not work as well... I'll post my modified bait up in a few days when I finish the prototype. I am just making a mold so I have a few to fish. Hope these end up better producers than the chatter type baits... Mudfish is all they catch for me:censored: Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
