saint308 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 It seems kinda slow on the board so I thought I would throw something out there. 1. How hot is the plastic you guys are pouring? I know some baits require hotter plastic, but just a general idea. 2. Does anyone know what temp plastic begins to scorch and change smells? I am wondering how hot I can keep my plastic inside my presto without burning the plastic, as I am now going to start pouring Del's frogs from the pot. Thanks. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printertom Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 saint i haven't forgot those pics and i like to run mine at 340 on the dial i some time go up to 350 but with the plywood lid seem to keep the plastic hotter so 340 is usually good i keep my eye on the smoke if there a little smoke that good if there a lot of smoke not good pretty simple right i have a lazer temp reader i run between 340 and 350 you don't want to crack the 360 mark or your headed to the big black blob nasty stinky and messy i try to aviod Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hey Thomas ole boy, where ya been. I have been running the trick worms around 325*-335*. It hasn't become a problem yet. However, I will need it a little hotter to fill the feet on Del's toad. Thanks. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 No clue here!! I do all mine on the look of the plastic. I have never taken a temperature since starting pouring. Try to stay below the "big black blob stinky nasty" temp for sure!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Same here Jim. I guess we're just "old school"; lol. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I was to "pour" to afford the dumb thermometer when I started out!!! JK!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 my pots are at 320 for stick baits, 350 for tubes...any more and it will brown out even it is agiatated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmik26 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I bought a $15 dollar digital thermometer when I first started. This was to verify that I was doing the right thing with a certain plastic company I was having problems with . After nothing worked I started to use LC plastic and my procedures and consistancy in baits has not change one bit since I been using them, that was about 25 gallons ago. Hopefully it stays that way for a long time....Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 When I'm stirring, I can tell by it's consistency when it's ready to pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I use a wood tounge deppreser,that goes into the plastic before it goes into the Micro Wave,and stays there till the tube dipping is complete.I keep it at one end of the dipping pan,and it seems to act as a heatsink.When stirring I go by look and feel alone,and no longer use my thermometer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassnRandy Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I don't check temp .If it turns brown it got to hot. I pour the smaller stuff as hot as I can. Sticks I actually pour on the cooler side. Just in the learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Saint, Did you ever get the temp right on the toads / frogs? I only get about 10% of the feet to pour perfect, have give up trying. Bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Are those buzz frogs or horny toads? Just curious as the horny toads you must pour the legs first, then close the mold and pour the body. Buss frogs should pour easily as the mold is vented well. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Del's frog Bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The new toad mold is vented well. The older version not as well and doesn't pour near as easily. I have to get it around at least 355* to pour the old mold. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Are you using salt in the baits? I used the molds a while back and had no issues with the feet filling. Check to be sure the legs have vents cut for air to be displaced. Possible but doubtful that the vents were not cut. Some of the real old frogs Bob made did not have vents and poured so-so. A quick ship back took care of that. Might want to post a picture of the inside of the mold and for sure talk with Del about the issues. Jim PS I bet Del can cut the vents in with no issues as Bob does... Give him a call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I must have the old Del frog molds, no vents. Saint, could you post a pick of the inside of the vented frog mold? Thanks, Bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I will try to take some pics today. The old mold does have some vents cut, but it is one big one per frogs. The new one has multiple small holes drilled into each side of each feet. I will try to post some pics sometime this weekend of each mold. Thanks. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I would contact Del and see if he can cut you a few vents or, if you are brave enough, you can use a hack saw and cut small vents yourself. The paddle tail molds that Del have needed vents and the hacksaw did the job easily!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 That is a good idea Jim. I may cut it this weekend. I think I am going to order another 4 cavity from him. That way I could pour 10 at a time. If I do that, I might send it back for him to vent and I won't be losing that much pouring time. That has been my best selling bait by far. I just shipped out 200 yesterday and need to pour 200 more this weekend to complete the order. The total order was 600. From what I understand, he will need the same order in a couple of weeks. So I do see more molds in my future. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I am using a presto pot, temp at 360d, pouring right down the center, Mf plastic, tried small streams, tried large streams, fast pour, slow pour, still get davits on the feet. Thanks guys. I may try to get Del to vent the mold this winter. I need the mold right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Try pouring very, very small stream at first then speed up once the feet are filled. Unless you are using salt, there is no reason the feet should not fill at that temp. If the mold is not vented, that is almost certainly your problem. I would send it to get vented ASAP. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks for your help Saint, I am using MF regular plastic without any additives. Is that the same as you use? One thing that gives me fits is the plastic will run down one side of the pour spout / valve one cavity pour and the other side of the pour spout / valve when I pour the cavity right next to the one I just poured. I am trying to find a better pour spout / valve. Bassbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Man, I don't know. Mine pours on the left side every time. I am using MF regular as well and I don't seem to have the problems. I will g take the pics right now. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Here are the pics of my two molds from Del. You will see that one has little holes in the feet to vent. There is also a flat vent to the bottom. That is the newer mold and it pours very easy. The other is just a flat vent to the bottom. That is my older mold, it does not pour near as easily. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
