Matt Becker Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I got my mold today. Tried getting some lamainates, got that down, but they arnt sticking together very good. I am pouring 1 color in 1 half of the mold, then putting the top on and pouring thee other color in. Im getting the color i want but the 2 colors arnet bonding good enough. How do i fix this? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutchman Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Matt, Pour the bottom layer or belly and let set for about 30 seconds. Make sure the second color is hot - not scorching - but runny. The hot second layer will bond the first. Also, make sure the mold is warm, not cold, and this will help the bonding process. With practice, you will not have separation. If you do have separation, pull them apart and reheat the plastic. Hope this helps. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Becker Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Thanks i'll keep playin with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 try doing one or two at a time until you figure it out. Also, you need to preheat the mold (I usually set mine on an electric stove burner set on low between pours). The plastic needs to be very hot for the second color or you will have issues with pouring the entire bait and/or delamination. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Sock Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I don't heat my molds, but I do make sure second color is very hot and I do 12 halfs, then put the molds togetehr and do the other halfs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Sock, Do you pour the first half with the mold open? Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutchman Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Willy, yes you do. Then put it together after the first half cools somewhat - so it doesn't run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Here's a shad laminate I did recently- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Becker Posted September 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 im still having problems. I tried heating the mold, i made sure the plastic was hot, but yet either i close it and flip it up to early and it rushed to the bottom, or i wait to long and it doesnt bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bssmstr Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 heat both colors to approx. 340F and pour your 1st color. stir the 2nd and put in the micro. after you fill the 1st half-reheat the 2nd to ~340F - 10-30 secs. or whatever it takes to get it back to 340 (consistency of hot pancake syrup-I always add heat stabilizer to my recipes) while the 2nd is heating put the mold together. When the 2nd is ready-stir and start pouring. I use LC plastic and have had it as hot as ~390F- it will smoke but the stabilizer will usually keep it from burning. (I've only burned one batch - after that I use the heat stabilizer religiously and use a Sears lazer temp sensor-the candy thermos are too slow) If you do a 3rd or more reheats- add a little more stabilizer. 1/2 tsp is enough for 2-3 oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstondominant Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I pour 1/2 the mold, put it togerther, then pour the other half. After that I take my $20 Wagner heat gun from Wal-Mart and heat the outside of the mold while it is standing up in a small vise. This works with just about any 2 piece aluminum mold. I have never had any seperation problems when doing it this way. It is a longer cooling process, but the final product is perfect. This also lets you go at your own pace, no rush to pour the second color. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 That's a great idea! I've done a similar thing but used the oven with great results. That's when I was single and didn't cook. I'm not allowed to use our oven since getting married. What model heat gun are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 May have to have Del jump in here but I seem to remember if you overheat and cool the 2 piece molds excessively and repeatedly, they could warp a bit. I may be way off on that as my memory may be (OK is) fading. Just hate to see that expensive mold become a paper weight!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I think you would have to get over 600 degrees F to cause any problems. I interpret the use of the heat gun to remelt or soften the two colors to make them stick. Play it safe and stay under 350. You will be operating in the range the mold is normally used to seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstondominant Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I use a digital temp gun, and only take the mold to around 325 degrees. I was putting my mold with the plastic into the oven at 350 degrees on a cookie sheet for 5 minutes. At least until the cookie sheet bowed, and dumped the plastic into the bottom of the oven. Needless to say I lost my oven privileges. I got the Wagner heat gun idea while shrinking some heat shrink tubing. It is the Wagner Multi-Purpose Dual Temp paint stripping gun. It is in the power tool section of Wal-Mart. They have this one for $20, or one for $55. No real difference between the models. This way is much easier and faster than heating the mold in the oven, plus I do not need to leave my work bench where my microwave is located. I also use it to preheat my molds. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...