ALLCITY guy Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I am new to this site and new to the lure making fun. I just started making my own flippin' and shaky head jigs. The problem I have is, the paint is chipping off sooner that I would expect it to, I know some will come off..... I am using a paint sold by Netcraft, basic vinyl paint with no primer,than a clear coat also sold by Netcraft. I have heard that you can and can't use a primer. Is that my problem or possibly not putting on enough clear/top coat? Thanks for the help!!!! Love the site!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I am not real familiar with the vinyl paint they sell, but the general concensus around here from personal experience and reading around - cured powder paint is the way to go for lead stuff, as it melts and bonds to the lead surface, where the vinyl is just put there, so to speak. As for the primer - I assume it's anothr type of paint than the vinyl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 You need either a white base coat or primer when using vinyl. The vinyl paint will move if the jighead gets dented from hitting rock and such but it doesn't bond directly to the lead with out a primer coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANNDALIZER Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Try Dick Nites paint. It works great on jigs. MAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Maxwell Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Are you coating the heads soon after pouring? Lead will oxidize if left in contact with air. I have been using the white vinyl paint for many years as the base coat and then using whatever over for colors. Finally 2 or 3 coats of 2 ton epoxy. Yea, they chip sometimes, but they are usually ready to be retired by then anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 ALLCITY, I don't use vinyl paint, so I'm going to stick with what I know. I use powder paint, with devcon overcoat. I will agree with all the responses here, but I most strongly agree with Tony Maxwell. I pour and paint with-in a week. Lead will oxidize and not grip paint as well if left longer. You can use a primer on lead to solve this problem. It's called self etching primer. Pour you lead, when all done spray with primer. I don't know if this will work on vinyl paint though I pour all my orders on an as needed basis. I don't stock pile for that reason. Yes, they all chip, I don't care who makes them,MPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Oxidized lead can be 'fixed' with a soak in vinegar, but best bet is to paint within a reasonable time after pouring or purchasing. Powder paint and follow directions on back. Suggestion: Purchase a separate toaster over and make your own racks to hang the jigs. Don't want to be feeding your kids lead flavored toast and poptarts. cadman - I loose them before they chip. LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 HookUp, you and me both Funny you should mention that. People ask me that question all the time. Well if I buy them from you “Will They Chip.” My answer is two fold. #1 No they will never chip if you keep them in you tackle box and don’t use them. #2 Of course they will chip especially if you use them in a rocky area. I fish a lot of rivers, with rocks and snags, and like you said, I lose more jigs than I worry about paint chipping. If I happen to get some that don’t get stolen from the bottom of the depths by the “Great Rock God”, then they usually are pretty beat up. At this point they are so badly chewed up, that painting won’t even help, so they go for re-melt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Oxidized lead can be 'fixed' with a soak in vinegar, but best bet is to paint within a reasonable time after pouring or purchasing.Powder paint and follow directions on back. Suggestion: Purchase a separate toaster over and make your own racks to hang the jigs. Don't want to be feeding your kids lead flavored toast and poptarts. cadman - I loose them before they chip. LoL I just flip my toaster oven upside down, use the rack in it to hang jigs. Others are right, the great river rock monsters just seem to grab those jigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Nice tip BLT. I'll try that next time I have a jig hook to long for the racks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...